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Old 10-17-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Virginia Beach is urban yet it remains a culturally southern city and it is the largest city in Virginia. It really is the transplants from the northeast and elsewhere.
Not exclusively, no. I'm sorry your personal bias belongs elsewhere. :/
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Old 10-17-2015, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Virginia is the furthest north that the south extends on the Atlantic Ocean, but it is still the south culturally.
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Old 10-17-2015, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Not exclusively, no. I'm sorry your personal bias belongs elsewhere. :/
There's no personal bias. You stated that urbanization brings a specified attitude with it and that is the reason why Northern Virginia was not culturally southern anymore, but I just gave you an example of Virginia's largest city VA Beach being culturally southern, and it absolutely is southern in culture. So whats the main difference between VA Beach and NoVa? NoVa is full of transplants from non-southern areas such as the Northeast.

Just 15-20 years ago you could argue NoVa was culturally southern, and even back then it was a relatively urbananized part of Virginia. What changed was the influx of transplants from non-southern areas in the past 10 years.

It's not too difficult to understand.
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Old 10-17-2015, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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There's no personal bias. You stated that urbanization brings a specified attitude with it and that is the reason why Northern Virginia was not culturally southern anymore, but I just gave you an example of Virginia's largest city VA Beach being culturally southern, and it absolutely is southern in culture. So whats the main difference between VA Beach and NoVa? NoVa is full of transplants from non-southern areas such as the Northeast.

Just 15-20 years ago you could argue NoVa was culturally southern, and even back then it was a relatively urbananized part of Virginia. What changed was the influx of transplants from non-southern areas in the past 10 years.

It's not too difficult to understand.
Oh no, there is a misunderstanding. I didn't say it wasn't southern for being urbanized, I just meant that urbanized areas carry with them a typical subset of cultural features, especially today with the connection of the younger generations over the internet. Transplants are a factor, but are not an exclusive factor.
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Old 10-18-2015, 01:54 AM
 
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There's no personal bias. You stated that urbanization brings a specified attitude with it and that is the reason why Northern Virginia was not culturally southern anymore, but I just gave you an example of Virginia's largest city VA Beach being culturally southern, and it absolutely is southern in culture. So whats the main difference between VA Beach and NoVa? NoVa is full of transplants from non-southern areas such as the Northeast.

Just 15-20 years ago you could argue NoVa was culturally southern, and even back then it was a relatively urbananized part of Virginia. What changed was the influx of transplants from non-southern areas in the past 10 years.

It's not too difficult to understand.
Explain what is "culturally southern" about VA Beach? I do find this statement difficult to understand.
Having moved to the Hampton Roads/VA Beach metro from SoCal nine years ago I do find elements of the South but not at all ABSOLUTELY southern, whatever that means.
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Virginia Beach is a melting pot (and really not urban at all) with people from all over the US. The natives are definitely southern, but there are so many transplants that it balances out. Even then, the natives demonstrate a blend of southern culture and beach culture.
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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there is an enormous difference just driving into virginia from maryland, you can feel it especially getting down I 95 and I 85. The traffic laws are very different , just a whole different feel to the states. Loudon county still has alot of horse country left and very southern sort of aristocratic feel in middleburg warrenton and those areas.

My mother has long roots in loudon and alot of family there and they think northern virginia is basically all about democrats trying to turn virginia blue ,alot of people keep mentioning the emigration into northern virginia from the northeast, but it is really immigration that is fueling alot of northern virginia's change . El Salvador is the top country of birth for immigrants to Virginia, but asians and lots of african immigration as well. Northern Virginia is home to almost 70 percent of Virginia's foreign-born population.

In 1970, more than 93 percent of Fairfax County’s population was white and middle-class, that has drastically changed. Over 50 percent of the kids in the fairfax county schools dont speak english at home
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Old 10-18-2015, 10:17 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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The lower third of the state, absolutely.

The middle and upper thirds no way.
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Old 10-19-2015, 01:47 AM
 
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If you're including Hampton Roads in the 'lower third of the state" you are pretty much mistaken. If by lower third you're talking about Danville. Martinsville etc. then yes.
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Old 10-19-2015, 05:16 AM
 
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Lol Hampton Roads is definitely southern and the people there have no qualms happily telling you it's the south especially places like Williamsburg.
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