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Old 10-19-2015, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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There is no such thing as a canadian accent.
Wow, thanks for clearing everything up!

 
Old 10-19-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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Really? That's too bad. I, for one, find the stereotypical Canadian accent to be very charming, not to mention that I was just in Ontario last week and, at least in the areas of Essex County and Chatham-Kent where I was, "oat" (out) and "aboat" (about) are alive and well. I also love "proe-gress" (progress), "proe-cess" (process) and "AH-dlt" (adult).

I grew up in NW Ohio and have lived in SE Michigan for the past 18 years. I work as a telephone triage nurse and spend most of my work days speaking to people in California and Oregon. I have had several of them tell me that I have a Minnesota accent, a Michigan accent, or even a Canadian accent, all of which I proudly claim!

Accents and dialects make life interesting. Wouldn't it be boring if we all sounded exactly the same?
Yes it's considered low class. In Toronto "aboat" will get you fired pretty quickly.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Yes it's considered low class. In Toronto "aboat" will get you fired pretty quickly.
Wow, it is profoundly unprogressive to fire somebody for their accent.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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Yes it's considered low class. In Toronto "aboat" will get you fired pretty quickly.
I actually think it's more low class to copy someone else's dialect instead of embracing your own, especially when you consider what the U.S. is becoming in recent years. We have a lot of lowlifes down here. A lot of nice people too, of course, but a LOT of lowlifes. I am flattered when people tell me I have a Canadian accent.
 
Old 10-19-2015, 05:55 PM
 
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To my Western US ears, all are essentially Northern Cities Vowel shift variants. And I did use the word variants. There is some variance between parts of that mega region. But at the end of the day, it's the Northern Cities Vowel Shift.

Now I'm gunna getta pop!
 
Old 10-19-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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To my Western US ears, all are essentially Northern Cities Vowel shift variants. And I did use the word variants. There is some variance between parts of that mega region. But at the end of the day, it's the Northern Cities Vowel Shift.

Now I'm gunna getta pop!
No, Canadians don't have the northern cities vowel shift. That is purely an American Midwest thing. It hasn't even crossed the border into Canada. Canadian sounds almost entirely like a California accent with the exception of Canadian raising which isn't prevalent anymore (depending on your class)
 
Old 10-19-2015, 07:38 PM
 
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I actually think it's more low class to copy someone else's dialect instead of embracing your own, especially when you consider what the U.S. is becoming in recent years. We have a lot of lowlifes down here. A lot of nice people too, of course, but a LOT of lowlifes. I am flattered when people tell me I have a Canadian accent.
Canadians aren't copying anything. A upper to middle class Canadian accent has always sounded like a California neutral accent. "Aboat" and "oat" is predominately spoken by the lower class population. Poor Canadians sound like bob and Doug Mckenzie.
 
Old 10-20-2015, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Pure Michigan!
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Canadians aren't copying anything. A upper to middle class Canadian accent has always sounded like a California neutral accent. "Aboat" and "oat" is predominately spoken by the lower class population. Poor Canadians sound like bob and Doug Mckenzie.
That's interesting, because I have known and worked with very educated, professional, Canadian people who have a very clear "oat" and "aboat" accent, not to mention that many Canadian Olympic and otherwise professional athletes when interviewed on television speak that way as well.

Interesting too, that when you watch Canadian shows on HGTV, the very well paid, professional, hosts speak that way (Sandra Rinomato, Drew and Jonathan Scott, etc.) as well as the people they are working with who can buy homes in the $500,000+ range.

I'm not arguing with you, a Canadian, just saying that what you're telling us here surprises me very much based on my personal experiences. Also, I don't think that having an "oat" and "aboat" accent is the same thing as talking like Bob and Doug McKenzie. They exaggerate the accent to the nth degree, whilst throwing a couple of dozen "ehs" into every sentence. The only people I can imagine actually speaking like Bob and Doug McKenzie might be the ice road truckers or someone who runs a hunting lodge on Whiskey Lake, lol.

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Old 10-20-2015, 06:53 AM
 
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I don't watch much television (at all), but every now and then, I'll watch some HGTV. You can always tell when a program is filmed in Canada. Accents might be subtle, but they're always there. The "aboat" debate....I've heard pronounced "aboat", and these don't appear to be lower class people. Just watch a little HGTV people, that will tell you all you need to know on this debate.
 
Old 10-20-2015, 05:36 PM
 
Location: IN
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I don't watch much television (at all), but every now and then, I'll watch some HGTV. You can always tell when a program is filmed in Canada. Accents might be subtle, but they're always there. The "aboat" debate....I've heard pronounced "aboat", and these don't appear to be lower class people. Just watch a little HGTV people, that will tell you all you need to know on this debate.
With the northern cities shift accent the "northern raising" of the word "about" tends to put a bit more emphasis on the 'ow' sound portion of the word.
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