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View Poll Results: Ohio: Northeast or Midwest?
Northeast 5 10.00%
Midwest 45 90.00%
Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-20-2015, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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The Eastern half of the state is more East Coast like. The Western half is more Midwest like. Youngstown is more like Pennsylvania than the Midwest. Cleveland is borderline. Athens is basically West Virginia. Columbus, Dayton and Toledo are Midwest. Cincinnati is basically Kentucky.

The short answer is: it's complicated; and that's why Cleveland is the nation's political bellwether.
Cincinnati is not basically Kentucky. The Eastern half of the state is not more East Coast like. Besides you're in a minority as indicated by the poll:
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:01 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Upstream you will find a Tim Hortons and several groups of kids playing hockey. Downstream you will find a fella picking on a banjo and making moonshine while humming hymns.

Its not that hard...
There is at least one Tim Horton's in the Cincinnati area with more to come. I guess they'll start calling SW Ohio, "Little Canada"

I agree that there is a big Appalachian influence in the counties surrounding Cincinnati. However, you will not find stereotypical banjo-pluckin' moonshiners. Most of the Kentuckians who flooded into this region came to work in industry and as a result tend to live in denser areas. Out in the country surrounding it is Midwestern German farmers as far as the eye can see.

New York City has millions of African-Americans who came up from the south during the same period as the Kentuckians came to SW Ohio, but you never hear people calling New York City a souther city even though you hear "Y'all" all the time there.
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:25 AM
 
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There is at least one Tim Horton's in the Cincinnati area with more to come. I guess they'll start calling SW Ohio, "Little Canada"

I agree that there is a big Appalachian influence in the counties surrounding Cincinnati. However, you will not find stereotypical banjo-pluckin' moonshiners. Most of the Kentuckians who flooded into this region came to work in industry and as a result tend to live in denser areas. Out in the country surrounding it is Midwestern German farmers as far as the eye can see.

New York City has millions of African-Americans who came up from the south during the same period as the Kentuckians came to SW Ohio, but you never hear people calling New York City a souther city even though you hear "Y'all" all the time there.

I guess the problem I have with this is that Cincinatti sits across the river from Kentucky and a good chunk of it's metro area (including it's airport) are in Kentucky. The Kentuckian influences would be undeniable because of that. Whereas New York is several states removed from the perceived "south". So I find this comparison intellectually dishonest.

The second problem I have with everyone getting their panties in a bunch because Cinci has been associated with Kentucky, is that it is more or less inferred that being associated with Kentucky is pejorative in nature which is a little ignorant and insulting to Kentuckians. The parts of Kentucky that Cincinatti is associated with are more educated, more cosmopolitan, and more progressive than whole sections of Ohio. I absolutely think Cincinatti shares influences as a river city with Louisville, and cultural similarities with Lexington, which are both awesome cities.

No one is saying Cincinatti has anything in common with dueling banjos, and Appalachian stigmas, as is being inferred by detractors.

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Old 10-20-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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Ohio is the grey border between the Mid Atlantic, the South, the Midwest, and Canada. There is a small stream just east of Columbus that determines the true border. On the eastern bank there are rude Northeastern types with no family values. On the western bank there are strong midwest accents and even stronger family values and super nice folks. Upstream you will find a Tim Hortons and several groups of kids playing hockey. Downstream you will find a fella picking on a banjo and making moonshine while humming hymns.

Its not that hard...
WTF?? So the good heart Midwesterner is very angry.
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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Ohio is the grey border between the Mid Atlantic, the South, the Midwest, and Canada. There is a small stream just east of Columbus that determines the true border. On the eastern bank there are rude Northeastern types with no family values. On the western bank there are strong midwest accents and even stronger family values and super nice folks. Upstream you will find a Tim Hortons and several groups of kids playing hockey. Downstream you will find a fella picking on a banjo and making moonshine while humming hymns.

Its not that hard...
I grew up in the Northeast, I guess I have no family values. But some jackass can just stereotype people and nope he's not a dick.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Just East of the Southern Portion of the Western Part of PA
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:14 PM
 
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There is at least one Tim Horton's in the Cincinnati area with more to come. I guess they'll start calling SW Ohio, "Little Canada"
Don't forget - Ohio borders Canada.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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I guess the problem I have with this is that Cincinatti sits across the river from Kentucky and a good chunk of it's metro area (including it's airport) are in Kentucky.


Those who live in Cincinnati's northern suburbs may find it more convenient to use Dayton's airport.
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Old 10-20-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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I guess the problem I have with this is that Cincinatti sits across the river from Kentucky and a good chunk of it's metro area (including it's airport) are in Kentucky. The Kentuckian influences would be undeniable because of that. Whereas New York is several states removed from the perceived "south". So I find this comparison intellectually dishonest.

The second problem I have with everyone getting their panties in a bunch because Cinci has been associated with Kentucky, is that it is more or less inferred that being associated with Kentucky is pejorative in nature which is a little ignorant and insulting to Kentuckians. The parts of Kentucky that Cincinatti is associated with are more educated, more cosmopolitan, and more progressive than whole sections of Ohio. I absolutely think Cincinatti shares influences as a river city with Louisville, and cultural similarities with Lexington, which are both awesome cities.

No one is saying Cincinatti has anything in common with dueling banjos, and Appalachian stigmas, as is being inferred by detractors.
Louisville is culturally and linguistically Southern as is Lexington. Cincinnati and The parts of Kentucky in Cincys metro aren't.

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Old 10-20-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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Louisville is culturally and linguistically Southern. The parts of Kentucky in Cincys metro aren't.
It's just not that black and white. Louisville has mixed dialects as much as Cincinatti does. The Ohio River is not some impenetrable and unarguable dividing line between north and south. Only people who haven't spent time in these places would deny they are a mixed bag.
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