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Old 10-24-2015, 07:52 PM
 
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The area between NYC is almost continuously developed and is also littered with smaller cities like Trenton, Princeton, etc. So what's stopping the two cities from being one gigantic CSA? There are CSAs out there with a bigger gap between their constituent cities' development, such as LA and Riverside/San Bernadino. Why isn't that section of the east coast considered one single megametro then?
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:31 PM
 
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The area between NYC is almost continuously developed and is also littered with smaller cities like Trenton, Princeton, etc. So what's stopping the two cities from being one gigantic CSA? There are CSAs out there with a bigger gap between their constituent cities' development, such as LA and Riverside/San Bernadino. Why isn't that section of the east coast considered one single megametro then?
Sounds no different than Chicago and Milwaukee.
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Old 10-24-2015, 08:35 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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All should realize if Philly is basically CSA of NYC. Then New Jersey is just one big Suburb.... You may as well say Boston to DC is one Big >>>>MEGALOPOLIS<<< or Mega-Metro as was mentioned..... then too....

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Old 10-24-2015, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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They technically meet the requirement I believe (kidphilly can you confirm?), but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Both cities have too strong of an identity to share a CSA. I do think the UN and/or Demographia classifies them as one urban agglomeration of 29+ million, though. And New Jersey IS viewed as one big suburb because, well, it is.
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Old 10-24-2015, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Sounds no different than Chicago and Milwaukee.
Roughly the same distance, but NYC-Philly are obviously much larger/more build up (imagine if Chicago added 10 more million and Milwaukee added 4 more million while remaining the same distance from eachother).

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They technically meet the requirement I believe (kidphilly can you confirm?), but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Both cities have too strong of an identity to share a CSA. I do think the UN and/or Demographia classifies them as one urban agglomeration of 29+ million, though. And New Jersey IS viewed as one big suburb because, well, it is.
In 2010 census I believe NYC and Philly missed CSA designation by like 2% (I doubt census would've put them in the same CSA, just made it another special case). They did meet the single UA definition: New York-Philadelphia UA 29,028,000, but were made special case and divided into separate UAs for the census.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Only if Yankee and Phillie fans are indiscriminately mixed throughout the region. This is not as whimsical as it seems. Cubs and White Sox fans are not divided according to whether they live on the north or south side of the CSA. When there is a large mass of people who share a cultural affinity with their institutions, that constitutes a separate metropolitan unit. Societal constructs are beating in the hearts of those on the ground, not on paper maps viewed from afar.

How many Eagles fans want the team to be called the [Metro] New York [CSA] Eagles?

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Old 10-25-2015, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I think the concept of a CSA is pointless and bogus. MSA makes a lot more sense for the everyday lives of most people.
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Old 10-25-2015, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I think the concept of a CSA is pointless and bogus. MSA makes a lot more sense for the everyday lives of most people.
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CSAs are inflated metrics designed to make certain cities look more important than they actually are. All CSAs do is promote sprawl and the acceptance of sprawl...
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Old 10-25-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Would it really change either of these two cities if we woke up tomorrow and someone suddenly designated that they were a CSA?
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Old 10-25-2015, 10:00 AM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Would it really change either of these two cities if we woke up tomorrow and someone suddenly designated that they were a CSA?
It wouldn't. It's just for homers here to get off on so try to get validation that their area is the best of all.
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