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Old 11-05-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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It's interesting how San Francisco always ranks high on these lists but is not known for crime.
This is true. If someone visits NYC, they often ask (on C-D, or people I have met in life) "will it be safe".

I don't think I've ever in my life heard someone ask if SF is safe to visit. Shows that there's a massive gap between reputation and reality.

I mean, NYC has the same crime rate as Scottsdale. If I told most people that, they would laugh in my face, and call me crazy.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:00 AM
 
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After looking at that list again, a couple of other surprises are Newark NJ being lower than I thought and Glendale AZ being higher than I thought it would be.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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So the safest city is Jersey City, and the safest big city is NYC.

All the cities above Jersey City are just sprawly suburbs that happen to be in states that have weak annexation laws.
Boise isn't a city?
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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So the safest city is Jersey City, and the safest big city is NYC.

All the cities above Jersey City are just sprawly suburbs that happen to be in states that have weak annexation laws.
Boise has every right to be called a "real city" insofar as it has a genuine CBD which looks urban. Most of it's land area is suburban, but that's true of virtually every city in the South or West which isn't New Orleans or San Francisco.
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Eaton, CO
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Where did you get this from? A lot of big suburban cities of bigger cities on the list.
I got my info from NeighborhoodScout, and these cities are the top 100 largest cities by population ranked in order of total crime index.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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Boise isn't a city?
I guess it's a city, but it would be silly to compare Boise to places like NYC and SF, IMO.

It's a rural part of the U.S., almost entirely white, no ghettos, heavily Mormon, low inequality, etc. You can compare anything to anything, but I wouldn't compare Boise to big cities in terms of crime stats. I would compare it to suburbs like Scottsdale. It's only on the list because it annexed suburban areas anyways.
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Old 11-05-2015, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Eaton, CO
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I guess it's a city, but it would be silly to compare Boise to places like NYC and SF, IMO.

It's a rural part of the U.S., almost entirely white, no ghettos, heavily Mormon, low inequality, etc. You can compare anything to anything, but I wouldn't compare Boise to big cities in terms of crime stats. I would compare it to suburbs like Scottsdale. It's only on the list because it annexed suburban areas anyways.
Correct, Boise is in the top 100 largest US cities by population, ranking at 99. That is why it is on this list.
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Old 11-05-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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I guess it's a city, but it would be silly to compare Boise to places like NYC and SF, IMO.

It's a rural part of the U.S., almost entirely white, no ghettos, heavily Mormon, low inequality, etc. You can compare anything to anything, but I wouldn't compare Boise to big cities in terms of crime stats. I would compare it to suburbs like Scottsdale. It's only on the list because it annexed suburban areas anyways.
Boise is actually a respectable core city of 215,000 and fast growing, and the hub of a metro of 665,000, which makes it the third largest city in the Pacific Northwest. I think Boise definitely qualifies as a city/metro, and can be compared to other cities/metros in this country of comparable population.

And it's not entirely white, as there is a visible Hispanic minority of nearly 10% throughout the metro. Not sure if it has ghettos or not, but I'm sure there are probably some lower-income/shady hoods of white/brown people. Also can't find statistics on the Mormonism practices up there, but I doubt we're talking Salt Lake City here. The Pac NW is well known for high levels of agnosticism/atheism, and I wouldn't be surprised if Boise follows suit here, in addition to having practicing Catholics.

Bottom line, yea Boise, ID isn't NYC or SF or even SLC, but it's still a respectable size that anchors a more isolated region of this country. By your logic, the only true cities worth discussing on this forum are the Top 15/25, and I'm not sure I agree with that. If Boise was gang-banging like Little Rock is/was, then would it be worthy of discussion? What if it was more cosmopolitan (despite the fact several top metros aren't terribly diverse)?
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Old 11-05-2015, 01:05 PM
 
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I got my info from NeighborhoodScout, and these cities are the top 100 largest cities by population ranked in order of total crime index.
I thought so. Their crime stats are a joke in my opinion with many cities that are considered generally quite safe "among the most dangerous" in the country. I mean what is their comparison point? The Per 1000 Resident metric applies to rural, suburban and urban environments...and isn't a one size fits all measure.
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Old 11-05-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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SF ranks higher than Baltimore.. Wow.
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