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Old 11-05-2015, 01:54 PM
 
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I thought so. Their crime stats are a joke in my opinion with many cities that are considered generally quite safe "among the most dangerous" in the country. I mean what is their comparison point? The Per 1000 Resident metric applies to rural, suburban and urban environments...and isn't a one size fits all measure.
I agree...I don't know why, but it is a site that comes off as somewhat suspect to me.
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Old 11-05-2015, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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General crime rates are pretty useless at showing the more important crime issues, like murder, assault, etc.

A perfect example for how flawed a single general crime rate:

Compare Seattle to Washington, DC, which both have very similar population totals. Here are their ranks on this list provided in the first post:

73. Washington, DC: 61.09
80. Seattle, WA: 63.15


Now let's look at the actual violent crime:

Washington, DC murder count in 2013: 103 (15.9 per 100,000 residents)
Seattle murder count in 2013: 19 (3.0 per 100,000 residents)

Washington, DC rape count in 2013: 393 (60.8)
Seattle rape count in 2013: 153 (23.8)

Washington, DC robbery count in 2013: 3,660 (566.2)
Seattle robbery count in 2013: 1,601 (249.1)

Washington, DC assault count in 2013: 3,724 (576.1)
Seattle assault count in 2013: 1,985 (308.8)

Seattle has MUCH LESS violent crime than Washington, DC. But because Seattle has some more thefts and auto thefts (or because Seattle records more thefts/property crime than D.C.), it appears comparable in crime to D.C. A blanket crime rate is inaccurate. Let alone the fact that certain cities are just too big for a single crime rate to be useful, like LA or NYC. That's like giving an entire state one crime rate, and thinking that that number applies to the entire state when it doesn't.
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Old 11-05-2015, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
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If people care here is a ranking of the "violent crime" rate. Moderator cut: link removed, linking to competitor sites is not allowedThis is measuring only cities with 25,000 or more. You have a much lower chance of being a victim of a violent crime, that's why when examining all crime you can get D.C. and Seattle ranked close. That type of analysis does hold some merit just from the view point of "if I move to X city, what is the chance of me being a victim of any sort of crime". I do agree though, saying these are the most dangerous cities is a little disingenuous.

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Old 11-05-2015, 03:43 PM
 
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Wow LA & NY were doing pretty ok and SF was terrible. Surprised me
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Old 11-05-2015, 09:59 PM
 
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I have compiled a list of the 100 largest US cities by the crime index per 1,000 residents. The list will go from safest to most dangerous.

Note: The number following the city name is the crime index per 1,000 residents.


1. Gilbert, AZ: 16.08
2. Irvine, CA: 16.41
3. Fremont, CA: 21.07
4. Henderson, NV: 21.86
5. Santa Ana, CA: 22.67
6. Plano, TX: 23.03
7. Chula Vista, CA: 23.43
8. Boise, ID: 24.93
9. Jersey City, NJ: 25.28
10. Chandler, AZ: 26.23
11. Virginia Beach, VA: 26.69
12. New York, NY: 27.02
13. Scottsdale, AZ: 27.12
14. Los Angeles, CA: 27.22
15. El Paso, TX: 27.86
16. San Diego, CA: 28.48
17. San Jose, CA: 29.48
18. Irving, TX: 29.64
19. Chesapeake, VA: 30.05
20. Anaheim, CA: 31.26
21. Hialeah, FL: 32.08
22. Mesa, AZ: 32.51
23. Tampa, FL: 32.52
24. Long Beach, CA: 33.17
25. Honolulu, HI: 33.53
26. North Las Vegas, NV: 35.07
27. Aurora, CO: 35.35
28. Raleigh, NC: 35.68
29. Madison, WI: 37.23
30. Reno, NV: 37.67
31. Boston, MA: 37.86
32. Garland, TX: 38.20
33. Riverside, CA: 38.72
34. Lincoln, NE: 39.62
35. Las Vegas, NV: 40.85
36. Durham, NC: 41.04
37. Pittsburgh, PA: 41.98
38. Fort Wayne, IN: 42.02
39. Charlotte, NC: 42.87
40. Denver, CO: 43.26
41. Chicago, IL: 44.71
42. St. Paul, MN: 44.79
43. Philadelphia, PA: 45.42
44. Arlington, TX: 45.49
45. Colorado Springs, CO: 45.81
46. Lexington, KY: 46.21
47. Phoenix, AZ: 46.30
48. Jacksonville, FL: 46.35
49. Newark, NJ: 46.98
50. Laredo, TX: 47.02
51. Greensboro, NC: 47.23
52. New Orleans, LA: 47.26
53. Sacramento, CA: 47.89
54. Anchorage, AK: 48.82
55. Fort Worth, TX: 49.30
56. Omaha, NE: 49.82
57. Richmond, VA: 50.18
58. Columbus, OH: 50.19
59. Nashville, TN: 50.21
60. Dallas, TX: 50.52
61. Louisville, KY: 50.80
62. Fresno, CA: 50.96
63. Bakersfield, CA: 51.90
64. Norfolk, VA: 51.94
65. Austin, TX: 52.46
66. Corpus Christi, TX: 52.72
67. Portland, OR: 55.80
68. San Bernardino, CA: 57.21
69. Lubbock, TX: 57.34
70. Milwaukee, WI: 59.54
71. Minneapolis, MN: 59.97
72. Winston-Salem, NC: 61.02
73. Washington, DC: 61.09
74. Baton Rouge, LA: 61.61
75. Houston, TX: 61.85
76. Wichita, KS: 61.98
77. Glendale, AZ: 62.17
78. St. Petersburg, FL: 62.55
79. Miami, FL: 62.65
80. Seattle, WA: 63.15
81. Buffalo, NY: 63.50
82. San Antonio, TX: 63.71
83. Albuquerque, NM: 63.98
84. Oklahoma City, OK: 64.21
85. Baltimore, MD: 64.81
86. Tulsa, OK: 65.53
87. Kansas City, MO: 65.64
88. Stockton, CA: 66.05
89. Toledo, OH: 66.12
90. Indianapolis, IN: 66.27
91. San Francisco, CA: 67.67
92. Cincinnati, OH: 68.68
93. Cleveland, OH: 74.24
94. Tucson, AZ: 74.80
95. Orlando, FL: 75.10
96. Atlanta, GA: 78.10
97. Memphis, TN: 78.18
98. Detroit, MI: 80.68
99. St. Louis, MO: 82.17
100. Oakland, CA: 83.40


Interesting that the cities with the highest proportion of Whites, rank low in crime.
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Old 11-06-2015, 12:20 AM
 
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Interesting that the cities with the highest proportion of Whites, rank low in crime.
It has more to do with the urban/suburban factor, as many of the more suburban cities and the higher ranked urban cities are still quite diverse culturally.
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Old 11-06-2015, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Interesting that the cities with the highest proportion of Whites, rank low in crime.
You can say that but I find it interesting you fail to mention that almost all the cities at the bottom have a poverty rate 20%+ or more below poverty line, while at the top it is non-existent.
Scottsdale- 5.8% (Data available on CD)
Oakland-19.4%
Saint Louis- 29.4%
This doesn't include all the guys who are borderline poverty rate which is still poor.
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Old 11-06-2015, 07:28 AM
 
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You can say that but I find it interesting you fail to mention that almost all the cities at the bottom have a poverty rate 20%+ or more below poverty line, while at the top it is non-existent.
Scottsdale- 5.8% (Data available on CD)
Oakland-19.4%
What does the poverty level have to do with crime? It seems to me that people inclined to commit crimes would also lack wholesome values such as hard work and respect for others lives and property. Being rich or poor has nothing to do with one's values.

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Old 11-06-2015, 07:30 AM
 
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It has more to do with the urban/suburban factor, as many of the more suburban cities and the higher ranked urban cities are still quite diverse culturally.
Most of the higher crime metro areas have fewer Whites and voted for in greater percentages for Obama and Democrat mayors and city councils more so than the lower crime metro areas.
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Old 11-06-2015, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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It has more to do with the urban/suburban factor, as many of the more suburban cities and the higher ranked urban cities are still quite diverse culturally.
My understanding is that general crime levels are linked almost entirely to socio-economic status. Violent crime levels, unfortunately, are closely linked to a higher black population.* Cities with lots of low-income whites or Latinos often have very high property crime rates, but comparably little in the way of shootings.

* This probably is something unique to do with African-American street culture, because black neighborhoods where people are not from an African-American background (like Afro-Caribbean neighborhoods in NYC) tend to be areas with low levels of violence.
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