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Old 11-12-2015, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I think the "blue collar" Northeast ended decades ago. Yes there is still a blue collar element in all states here but it's an old stereotype IMHO.
It's not blue collar in the sense that Pittsburgh was with fat guys carrying a lunch pail into the steel mill. It's still fairly blue collar in the sense that labor unions are stronger than in most parts of the country with more people concentrated in skilled trades.

If you're looking at cities rather than metros, then that poster does have a bit of a point. The larger southern cities like Atlanta, Charlotte and Raleigh have White populations that are well-educated and affluent. Northeastern cities tend to have larger remnants of a White working-class population. There is no equivalent of Northeast Philadelphia within Atlanta's city limits.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Cuisine, religion, political ideology, and educational attainment can be different as well. I don't think the rural South and rural North are drastically different, but there are certainly very noticeable differences.
Those differences are minuscule at best when considering the totality of every day life in both regions; the same can be said for all parts of the country.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Those differences are minuscule at best when considering the totality of every day life in both regions; the same can be said for all parts of the country.
I think educational attainment and political ideology have profound effects on the 'totality of every day life', so I will have to disagree with you there. Even in my own state, there are marked differences between North and South, along with differences between urban and rural in both regions.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:11 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I think educational attainment and political ideology have profound effects on the 'totality of every day life', so I will have to disagree with you there. Even in my own state, there are marked differences between North and South, along with differences between urban and rural in both regions.
Political ideology and educational attainment aren't mutually exclusive any one place, same as wealth and poverty. Political ideology seems to be more of a rural/urban trait than a north/south trait except in New England, which is more evident now more than ever.
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Old 11-12-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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Those differences are minuscule at best when considering the totality of every day life in both regions; the same can be said for all parts of the country.
When you add accents and ancestry/demographics, I don't think those are exactly miniscule differences. As a Black person born and raised in the rural South and now living in the Northeast, I can tell you there are noticeable differences between the rural North and rural South.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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No, they are actually very different and that's not the only difference but alright.
I've lived in multiple states. NY, PA, Ohio, TN, and Louisiana. Pretty good range of north/south if you ask me.

I know what I'm talking about here.

People like you are just addicted to splitting hairs. They aren't that different. Fact. Bottom line. The only way two places like this become drastically different from one another is when you start dissecting tiny details and comparing extremes. But when you do that, no state is the same as any other, in fact no region of any state is like another within its own state.

Heck, we can start splitting hairs all the way down to households if you want.

I'm so beyond tired of this country trying to divide itself like we're from different planets or something. Jeez.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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I don't think the differences are minuscule. These places are obviously very different in important ways within the context of the United States. If the only point that people are making is that Boston is more similar to Birmingham than it is to Islamabad, then oh well.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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I don't think the differences are minuscule. These places are obviously very different in important ways within the context of the United States. If the only point that people are making is that Boston is more similar to Birmingham than it is to Islamabad, then oh well.
Go to Wal Mart in Alabama. Go to Wal Mart in Wyoming. Go to Wal Mart in Wisconsin.

Pretty much the same all around.

In modern times our regional cultures are not that different.

I think another mistake people make is sticking their brains into "it must be 1865 still" mode when thinking of the north and south.
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Old 11-12-2015, 01:53 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I've lived in multiple states. NY, PA, Ohio, TN, and Louisiana. Pretty good range of north/south if you ask me.

I know what I'm talking about here.

People like you are just addicted to splitting hairs. They aren't that different. Fact. Bottom line. The only way two places like this become drastically different from one another is when you start dissecting tiny details and comparing extremes. But when you do that, no state is the same as any other, in fact no region of any state is like another within its own state.

Heck, we can start splitting hairs all the way down to households if you want.

I'm so beyond tired of this country trying to divide itself like we're from different planets or something. Jeez.
Thank you! You get it.. On a human level, north and south is all the same. Let's say some big tragic event happens at the same in the north and in the south simultaneously, the citizens of both places with react exactly the same way.
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Old 11-12-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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Thank you! You get it.. On a human level, north and south is all the same. Let's say some big tragic event happens at the same in the north and in the south simultaneously, the citizens of both places with react exactly the same way.
As would the folks in Nepal or Mauritius or Ecuador. With that type of standard in mind, there are no differences in human cultures/subcultures globally.
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