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Old 09-11-2018, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I have never heard that term applied to south Jersey. How... weird for weird's sake.
It's not so much in reference to the Jersey Shore, as it Cumberland and Salem counties.
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Old 09-11-2018, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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It's not so much in reference to the Jersey Shore, as it Cumberland and Salem counties.
It's still dumb.

Things do not turn into Alabama simply because they aren't stereotypes of their home state's reputation.
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Old 09-12-2018, 08:59 AM
 
Location: The City
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It's still dumb.

Things do not turn into Alabama simply because they aren't stereotypes of their home state's reputation.


The Pine barrens do have their own unique feel, not sure if southern but probably very rural in feel




the most southern parts of NJ are as far south as DC


the coast is different in that its mostly a summer place for folks from Philly and NYC burbs, expensive real estate
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Old 09-12-2018, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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The Pine barrens do have their own unique feel, not sure if southern but probably very rural in feel

the most southern parts of NJ are as far south as DC

the coast is different in that its mostly a summer place for folks from Philly and NYC burbs, expensive real estate
I am aware of all of those things.

See, DC isn't southern either though. No part of New Jersey is southern. To argue otherwise is ignorance for ignorance sake.

I get tired of people shrinking the north because of this weird epidemic of northern shame. The Adirondacks are extremely rural, are they part of the south now too?
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Old 09-12-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I am aware of all of those things.

See, DC isn't southern either though. No part of New Jersey is southern. To argue otherwise is ignorance for ignorance sake.

I get tired of people shrinking the north because of this weird epidemic of northern shame. The Adirondacks are extremely rural, are they part of the south now too?
Maryland and Virginia are southern, but DC isn't? Is it an exclave?
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Old 09-12-2018, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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I think of the northeast as stopping at Maryland and Delaware. If you want to split states up then sure the DC metro area of Virginia and eastern West Virginia can be considered part of the northeast as well.
You can't split up Virginia. The entire state is a southern state...

The entire state isn't Mid-Atlantic, though. That distinction only applies to NoVa x Central VA x Tidewater VA. Though I will say, there is fluidity within all three regions. Tidewater by far has the most widespread southern character of the three, but it is also pretty obviously contrasted from points south...

Being Mid-Atlantic isn't a southern or northern thing, its having a shared culture in the north-south transitional areas along the Eastern seaboard. That may have not been what it meant 100 years ago, but that's closer to the real world applicability of the Mid-Atlantic designation today...

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NoVA quite literally is the most Northern like place in the US outside of the widely considered NE (Maryland and up).

Although it also is similar to the Bay Area and LA suburbs in some ways too.
Only in the most general, broad sense is NoVa similar to Bay or LA suburbs. Extremely different, starting with landscape/geography, weather, and architecture, and you can then go 100 ways from there. Extremely different areas, besides being dense suburbia of major cities...
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:23 PM
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I'll say the Mid-Atlantic are PA, NJ, DE, MD and DC. VA and points south are solidly southern.
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Old 09-12-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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I am aware of all of those things.

See, DC isn't southern either though. No part of New Jersey is southern. To argue otherwise is ignorance for ignorance sake.

I get tired of people shrinking the north because of this weird epidemic of northern shame. The Adirondacks are extremely rural, are they part of the south now too?
If it's any region that people "shrink," it's the South. See your comment in that same post about DC.
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Old 09-12-2018, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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If it's any region that people "shrink," it's the South. See your comment in that same post about DC.
You caught the irony, I meant to post on that as well. Southern shame is more like it...
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Old 09-12-2018, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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If it's any region that people "shrink," it's the South. See your comment in that same post about DC.
Bull.

How often do you see people from Tennessee trying to claim they are northern? Never. How often do you see people from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, and even MICHIGAN trying to claim they are southern? Too dang often.
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