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Old 11-22-2015, 08:54 PM
 
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And I lived the first half of my life in the South(North Carolina) and just moved West....Big difference in my opinion, like day and night. The South is my home and always will be. But mentally and careerwise so much better off out west. Just my 2cents.
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Old 11-22-2015, 08:59 PM
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And I lived the first half of my life in the South(North Carolina) and just moved West....Big difference in my opinion, like day and night. The South is my home and always will be. But mentally and careerwise so much better off out west. Just my 2cents.
Not for everyone. I'm making double the salary living on the East coast now (North Carolina) than I did while living on the West coast (Los Angeles)...all the while living in an area with a much lower COL. I couldn't make a living on the West coast.

Minneapolis is one such area that does not feel like the Midwest to me. I'd go in a heartbeat.
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Old 11-22-2015, 10:59 PM
 
Location: DC
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Stop voting for liberal Democrats!!
I think the part you miss is many of us move to liberal and socially progressive cities exactly to get away from the socially conservative worldview and all that entails, from the rigid gender rules, homophobia, right wing religiosity, authoritarianism, etc.

That is a big draw of the northeast corridor and the west coast. Not having to put up with this crap.

That's the thing, we study hard in school, precisely so we could afford to move to one of these cities, because nothing is worse than being stuck in small town or suburban hell on earth with such rigidity and right wing social conformity. Better to pay more in DC, NYC, SF, Seattle, Boston or LA, than be stuck in the bible belt.

Also one thing I would like to mention with regards to east coast cities, most of the ones in the NE corridor have better walkability and public transit than West Coast Cities. Urban density, walkability, and public transportation are the benefits of the North East Corridor cities over the west coast. West Coast cities are far more car centric in comparison, SF is the only real exception to this. The west coast does have better weather though. So I am little shocked somebody said this is a strong suit of the west coast, it is like they have never been to DC, Philly, Boston, or NYC.

It's bad in the southern states, but there are in general, more walkable and transit friendly cities out east than there are out west largely because of the cities in the Northeast Megagopolis. There are strong points to western cities, but how walkable and transit friendly they are not among them. There is only one city where that is a strength, it's SF.

Don't believe me...look at the walk score rankings.
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Old 11-23-2015, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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If I could only make $40k, I wouldn't live in the high priced metros.
The solution is to get married. Median Incomes rise significantly when you look at specific types of households, not just all put together. Single person households have different priorities than married couple families:

As you can see, there is a huge difference in median income as well.

My pic.

Anaheim and Los Angeles are Metro Divisions of the Los Angeles MSA
Oakland, SF and San Rafael are Metro Division of the San Francisco MSA
Seattle and Tacoma are Metro Divisions of the Seattle MSA

I split them all up because there is a variance in income levels even within regions of the largest MSAs

Does this mean that the West Coast is suddenly affordable? Not really, but $112,000 is much better than $78,000-no?
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Old 11-23-2015, 06:15 AM
 
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I think the part you miss is many of us move to liberal and socially progressive cities exactly to get away from the socially conservative worldview and all that entails, from the rigid gender rules, homophobia, right wing religiosity, authoritarianism, etc.

That is a big draw of the northeast corridor and the west coast. Not having to put up with this crap.
Spot on with your comment

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Old 11-23-2015, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Ugh, while there are a few good places in the Midwest, it's cheaper (in some cases a lot cheaper) for a reason
I couldn't agree more. The midwest is not where it's at, IMO, particularly Illinois.
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