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View Poll Results: Legacy cities or non legacy
Legacy city 67 69.07%
Non legacy city 21 21.65%
No preference 9 9.28%
Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll

Old 11-25-2015, 03:03 PM
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Originally Posted by Gunion Powder View Post
I think it serves the same purpose.
Indeed, and I do call them "rock lawns".
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Old 11-25-2015, 07:13 PM
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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I think the OP is misusing the term "legacy city." AFAIK, the term was invented by this study. It basically is a rebranding of the Rust Belt. Cities explicitly included are: Akron, Albany, Baltimore, Birmingham, Buffalo, Camden, Canton, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dayton, Detroit, Flint, Gary, Milwaukee, Newark, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Saginaw, Saint Louis, South Bend, Syracuse. and Youngstown. Another, even larger list can be seen here. But basically it's any older city with an industrial past which hasn't transitioned to be significantly gentrified. Cities like Boston, NYC, or San Francisco are thus excluded, even though they also are not Sun Belt cities.
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Old 11-25-2015, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunion Powder View Post
Sunbelt landscape = post WW2 development, single family bungalows, manicured lawns, etc.
That exists everywhere; it's not exclusive to the Sunbelt.

New Orleans may not have seen the same rate of growth as other Sunbelt cities, but it's hardly been stagnant. It's the Sunbelt's legacy city. Simple as that.
A legacy city within the geographical Sunbelt. Exactly.
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Old 11-26-2015, 09:41 AM
Location: San Antonio
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Originally Posted by Mutiny77 View Post
That exists everywhere; it's not exclusive to the Sunbelt.
The prevalence of these things, as well as the styles most commonly found are unique to the Sunbelt. More specifically, the South Central Sunbelt.
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Old 11-26-2015, 10:16 PM
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I choose legacy cities. They are far more interesting on many levels. Many non-legacy cities tend to be boring, sterile, and bland in my view.
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Old 11-27-2015, 06:05 AM
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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Originally Posted by Cleverfield View Post
Legacy cities and non-legacy cities have different advantages and disadvantages. Legacy city refers to a city that largely boomed in the early-mid 20th century. They are mostly in the Northeast and Midwest, have strong cultural fabric, good public transit, rich architecture, and well endowed cultural institutions. They also have higher concentrations of poverty, lower median income, more abandonment, and slow or negative population growth. Examples are Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburg.

Non legacy cities boomed more recently, are experiencing rapid growth, have higher median incomes than legacy cities. However, they are lacking in historic architecture, strong cultural institutions, public transit, and walkability.

Which type of city do you prefer and why?
By this definition, how many cities would truly be non-legacy cities?

"Fast growing" cities like Atlanta, Denver, Miami, and Seattle aren't that much bigger than they were in 1950. Even places like Columbus, OH and Portland, OR have grown more slowly than the national population has since 1950.
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Old 11-27-2015, 06:18 AM
Location: Boston, MA
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Well, here in Boston, if a person gets hit by a car, they walk around to the driver's side door and say "hey, you just hit me!"

In the non-legacy cities if a person gets hit by a car, they're dead.
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Old 04-20-2017, 03:28 PM
Location: plano
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Legacy = old

No thanks
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:16 PM
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Legacy cities that blend the old and new. In Minneapolis you have the Guthrie theatre and the new Vikings stadium and new luxury condos right next to the old mill/warehouse district along the Mississippi River. Old cathedrals within a stones throw of modernist art galleries. The MIA building - old beautiful stone architecture with modern addition. The depth of history with gleaming modernism is beautiful.

The loop in Chicago and the near north neighborhoods are great examples as well.

When I visit Dallas or Phoenix I miss the old buildings and sense of history.
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DavePa View Post
The sunbelt surely has Cali bungalows around LA and some even in Houston. But the RANCH HOME is King and versions to McMansions.

But back to Single-family BUNGALOWS w/manicured front-lawns. DO YOU KNOW that the single Bungalow is a Northern Midwest staple? Especially a OLD LEGACY CITY LIKE CHICAGO.

Really, it was growing its Bungalow-belt the same time as LA. Just differing styles. That was 1910-1930 those most extend that to 1930 especially. Then Cali/LA had the Ranch become King.

Chicago though continued with Tudor-bungalows then its Mid-century modern varieties through the early 60s when it became grown out totally to its suburbs.

Some call them OLD in this thread but that 1910-really 1930 (some add to 1940) Frank Lloyd Wright/Tiffany inspired Craftsman varieties. Are 1/3 the city today. With 80,000 in the city limits built.

Chicago Building Types: Bungalows | Moss Architecture

Another 1/3 probably is the 50s-60s varieties.

----------------- 1910-1930 bungalow belt ---------------- 1950s-60s mid-century

May I ask where you're from DavePa? Your posts always intrigue me.
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