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View Poll Results: Should PR become a state?
Yes 64 44.44%
No 61 42.36%
Maybe 19 13.19%
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Old 12-28-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Absolutely not.

Puerto Rico is a third-world "banana republic" with high crime, lots of poverty, extremely corrupt politics and an overall culture that is completely dissimilar from that of the United States. The vast majority of people in Puerto are uneducated, don't speak a word of English and have no desire to learn English or adopt/embrace American culture, customs and traditions.

In all honesty, the US has more in common with Hong Kong than it does with Puerto Rico.
Puerto Rico is not that poor. It is the richest out of the Caribbean islands. Imo if they are granted statehood they will overtake Mississippi in about 5 years tops, and in 50 years they will just be middle of the pack state like Hawaii or Florida. They have been a US territory for over 100 years now, they have US citizenship, and Puerto Ricans serve in the US army. Thats good enough for me.
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Old 12-30-2015, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Ohio, USA
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Puerto Rico is not that poor. It is the richest out of the Caribbean islands. Imo if they are granted statehood they will overtake Mississippi in about 5 years tops, and in 50 years they will just be middle of the pack state like Hawaii or Florida. They have been a US territory for over 100 years now, they have US citizenship, and Puerto Ricans serve in the US army. Thats good enough for me.
But would statehood make Puerto Rico be too expensive for the locals living there?
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Old 12-30-2015, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Puerto Rico is not that poor. It is the richest out of the Caribbean islands. Imo if they are granted statehood they will overtake Mississippi in about 5 years tops, and in 50 years they will just be middle of the pack state like Hawaii or Florida. They have been a US territory for over 100 years now, they have US citizenship, and Puerto Ricans serve in the US army. Thats good enough for me.
Puerto Rico is not the richest Caribbean island. The Bahamas are.

The Top 10 Richest Caribbean Islands - TheRichest
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Old 12-31-2015, 06:36 AM
 
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Let me guess, you support Trump too?

Isent it interesting how all the posters who oppose statehood are bigots that post vile and repulsive statements about non-Whites? They don't care one bit about the financial aspects, they just don't like Brown people.
Many Puerto Ricans are white
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Old 12-31-2015, 06:49 AM
 
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The US Federal government should apologies to the kingdom Spain for the imperialist Spanish-American war and Immediately return to Spain the islands of Puerto Rico, Guam and any and all other illegally annexed Spanish territory still under US federal possession!
Spain was also and Empire... To whom should they apologize?

What about the Philippines and Cuba? The Philippines were US territory until 1946 and Cuba was essentially US Territory until 1902 and after that heavily influenced by US until 1959. They are independent now but left the Spanish Empire because of US meddling. Shoult those nations be returned to Spain as well?
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Old 12-31-2015, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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Puerto Rico is not the richest Caribbean island. The Bahamas are.

The Top 10 Richest Caribbean Islands - TheRichest
Wonder where The Cayman Islands are on that list?

Edit: The GDP per capita in The Caymans is about $55,000.
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Old 12-31-2015, 10:08 AM
 
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No. Give Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Marshall Islands, American Samoa their independence back.

It's not right to make Puerto Rico a state and to leave the rest of the territories without statehood. Set them all free.

Puerto Rico was never independent... it went from being a Spanish possession to a US possession. Virgin Islands were Spanish and British and Danish.. part are still British

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Old 12-31-2015, 10:39 AM
 
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Everybody likes to criticize Americans for being monolingual when other people know other languages.

First of all many people in the US have a knowledge of Spanish, it is the most common foreign language taken in high schools. True fluency doesn't come until it is used everyday, but it counts for something. Many of us need to use Spanish to communicate with others in the work place( people in Healthcare, Restaurants, Construction, Retail etc).

Secondly the US is huge territory from sea to sea and most of Canada speaks English. In Europe a couple hours drive puts you in 3 or 4 different countries so there is much more interaction with other languages. For those who say " Canada is bilngual" yes it is required in school but like Americans who take Spanish in high school... it is not used everyday. Farther away from Quebec and New Brunswick there just are not that many Francophones. Americans don't have an everyday need to know another language... its not an inherent Xenophobia that keeps Americans monolingual.

In Puerto Rico English is required in schools BTW. Other people from Latin America dont like how Puerto Ricans, especially those on the mainland use lots of English words, they say Puerto Ricans speak bad Spanish

People from Brazil for the most part only Speak Portuguese, Australians only speak English, Colombians speak only Spanish for the same reasons.. there is not everyday interactions with speakers of other languages like in Europe.

English is the de facto world language thanks the the British and American empires, in centuries past it was French or Latin... so one could live life in the world with only knowing English and communicate all over the world.

Is it good to know a second language? Unequivocally YES!! It gives another perspective on the world, it allows for easier communcation, good for business negotiations, helps develop additional neural pathways etc. I speak Spanish myself and it has helped me professionally.

As far as Puerto Rico being a state... its analogous to Hawaii in many ways. Hawaii has its own language, different culture, lots of welfare.
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Old 12-31-2015, 10:44 AM
 
Location: New York, NY
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No, they aren't American, they are a second world foreign country that is our territory due to conquest. Independence or remain a territory.
Puerto Ricans do love Americans, and it's not like they're being held captive by a American-sponsored dictator. Besides, I don't really think they like being a territory, if they have so much in common with Americans.
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Old 12-31-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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Most Puerto Ricans are white
1. In the eyes of most non-Hispanic Americans, Hispanic ppl are monolithic brown ethnic group.

2. Even though many Puerto Ricans both in the island and in the states, over half in fact, self-identify as "white", majority of them are actually racially mixed, i would say a "Tri-racial Quadroon" type mix. The ancestry of the "average" Puerto Rican person is about 60% European DNA, 25% African DNA, and 15% Indigenous DNA, ofcoarse u got some who are whiter then this and some who are blacker. This comes from generations of "race-mixing" not only from PR but many Latin American countries. In fact, Argentina is about the only Latin American country that is vast majority made up of people who are pure (or almost pure) white European ancestry. Look it up. Read Puerto Rico's history. Or better yet go to Puerto Rico itself or any predominately Puerto Rican American community in the US mainland, tell me what u see.
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