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View Poll Results: Should PR become a state?
Yes 64 44.44%
No 61 42.36%
Maybe 19 13.19%
Voters: 144. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-31-2015, 11:21 AM
 
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Puerto Rico is not that poor. It is the richest out of the Caribbean islands. Imo if they are granted statehood they will overtake Mississippi in about 5 years tops, and in 50 years they will just be middle of the pack state like Hawaii or Florida. They have been a US territory for over 100 years now, they have US citizenship, and Puerto Ricans serve in the US army. Thats good enough for me.
Puerto Rico is NOT the richest Caribbean island, and if wasnt for the US it would be just as poor as DR or Cuba. The Bahamas, Trinidad n Tobago, and a few smaller islands in the Eastern Caribbean like Antigua or Martinique are wealthier then Puerto Rico. I think even the Dominican Republic will surpass Puerto Rico's economy within 20-30 yrs if they both keep going their same paths (DRs economy is growing and PRs economy is declining)


Statehood will raise the cost of living in PR substantially, and will also result in a huge culture loss.
A "Hawaii-like" process will begin where a large chunk of Puerto Ricans would get pushed out or leave on their own to the mainland due to many things especially financial reasons, within 20 years tops after statehood PR would go from being 95% Puerto Rican to about 60% Puerto Rican, being replaced by white millionaires and latin/caribbean immigrants, PR would become increasingly Americanized to the point most of their remaining culture would only exist for tourism purposes.

However the upside to statehood is it would bring a better economy(then what it is now) and continued protection from a world power.
But the status of PR is really up to congress and the US government, not the ppl in PR or on the US mainland.

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Old 12-31-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Wonder where The Cayman Islands are on that list?

Edit: The GDP per capita in The Caymans is about $55,000.
The Cayman Islands are a British Overseas Territory (aka a "colony"), in fact their standard of living is higher than in the UK proper ... probably because they actually have sunlight

Modern British Overseas Territories actually have a pretty good deal, they are largely self governing over domestic matters while the UK retains control over defense, foreign affairs, and other functions normally associated with a 'national' government. Due to being British citizens they get free education at British colleges and universities, and visa-free access anywhere in the European Union.
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Old 12-31-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Puerto Rico is NOT the richest Caribbean island, and if wasnt for the US it would be poorer. The Bahamas, Trinidad n Tobago, and a few smaller islands in the Eastern Caribbean like Antigua or Martinique. I think even the Dominican Republic will surpass Puerto Rico's economy within 20-30 yrs if they both keep going their same paths (DRs economy is growing and PRs economy is declining)


Statehood will raise the cost of living in PR substantially, and will also result in a huge culture loss.
A "Hawaii-like" process will begin where a large chunk of Puerto Ricans would get pushed out or leave on their own to the mainland due to many things especially financial reasons, within 20 years tops after statehood PR would go from being 95% Puerto Rican to about 60% Puerto Rican, being replaced by white millionaires and latin/caribbean immigrants, PR would become increasingly Americanized to the point most of their remaining culture would only exist for tourism purposes.
That's basically already happening. The current pro-commonwealth (pro-territory/pro-status quo) administration has been making efforts at encouraging rich mainlanders to move to Puerto Rico and take advantage of various tax breaks. Also, increasing numbers of retirees from the mainland are moving to Puerto Rico for the low cost of living and retaining American comforts and guarantees that wouldent exist in say Mexico or Belize.

Another thing your forgetting is that native Hawaiians had been a minority since long before Hawaii was even annexed by the US in 1898, muchless became a state in 1959. Asians (Chinese and Japanese) have been the majority of Hawaii's population since oh say, the 1870s or so.

Puerto Rico is going to eventually become largely Americanized anyways, then Gov. Luis Munoz Marin recognized and admitted this in the 1950s in saying:
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"Two variations of a way of life, two manners of a common cultural heritage come into contact in Puerto Rico and have the opportunity of influencing each other for better or for worse. It is the job of all of us to make it be for better, to see that this interaction of cultural forces, while minimizing clashes and frictions, do constantly enrich the social and economic well-being, the standard of values, the mores and aspirations of the peoples of this Hemisphere."
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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No, they aren't American, they are a second world foreign country that is our territory due to conquest. Independence or remain a territory.
Wrong! Puerto Ricans were granted American citizenship in 1913. I believe it was the called the Jones Act.
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Old 02-18-2016, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Bronx NY
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ABSOLUTELY NOT! Puerto Rico is her own country still fighting for independence through the Independent Party. But when a government gives food stamps to our lower classes, they love the idea of being a Colony or a state.
Plus, Where else would Millionaires and Billionaires be able to move on US Soil and not have to bother with Federal Income Tax...
No Thank you :-)
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Old 02-18-2016, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Should the United States be country?
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Puerto Rico is NOT the richest Caribbean island, and if wasnt for the US it would be just as poor as DR or Cuba. The Bahamas, Trinidad n Tobago, and a few smaller islands in the Eastern Caribbean like Antigua or Martinique are wealthier then Puerto Rico. I think even the Dominican Republic will surpass Puerto Rico's economy within 20-30 yrs if they both keep going their same paths (DRs economy is growing and PRs economy is declining)
Literally ALL the islands you mentioned are poorer than Puerto Rico. Martinique is the only one on par, but still a little bit poorer. Dominican Republic? is that a joke? DR is like 5x poorer compared to PR.
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