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Old 12-02-2015, 12:14 PM
 
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Worcester, or Albany, although both probably have more colleges than Springfield, which hold it own in this category..
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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How far is Springfield from Philly? Philly is about 4 hours from Syracuse. Syracuse is about the same from NYC and Boston, as well as Toronto and Montreal.

I agree that the Eastern PA cities are very similar and another reason I say this is the more notable Puerto Rican/Hispanic community in Springfield and Eastern PA cities.
Per googlemaps:

Syracuse is 253 miles from Philadelphia. It list the drive as 4:15 currently or 3:46 with no traffic.
Springfield is 237 miles from Philadelphia. It lists the drive as 4:18 currently or 3:47 with no traffic.
Net: about the same

Syracuse is 246 miles from NYC. It lists the drive as 4:12 currently or 3:49 with no traffic.
Springfield is 142 miles from NYC. It lists the drive as 2:56 currently or 2:30 with no traffic.
Net: Springfield is about an 1hr15min closer.

Syracuse is 312 miles from Boston. It lists the drive as 4:41 currently or 4:33 with no traffic.
Springfield is 92 miles from Boston. It lists the drive as 1:35 currently or 1:28 with no traffic.
Net: Springfield is about 3:00 hrs closer.

So I guess I should amend my statement by saying, Springfield is about the same distance as Syracuse is from Philly or NYC.

It is true, Syracuse is closer to Toronto (3 hours closer) and Montreal (1/2 hour closer). But, those are still a good 245-250 miles from Syracuse. Plus you have to cross an international border, so they are not exactly as convenient as NYC or Boston are to Springfield.
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Old 12-02-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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Per googlemaps:

Syracuse is 253 miles from Philadelphia. It list the drive as 4:15 currently or 3:46 with no traffic.
Springfield is 237 miles from Philadelphia. It lists the drive as 4:18 currently or 3:47 with no traffic.
Net: about the same

Syracuse is 246 miles from NYC. It lists the drive as 4:12 currently or 3:49 with no traffic.
Springfield is 142 miles from NYC. It lists the drive as 2:56 currently or 2:30 with no traffic.
Net: Springfield is about an 1hr15min closer.

Syracuse is 312 miles from Boston. It lists the drive as 4:41 currently or 4:33 with no traffic.
Springfield is 92 miles from Boston. It lists the drive as 1:35 currently or 1:28 with no traffic.
Net: Springfield is about 3:00 hrs closer.

So I guess I should amend my statement by saying, Springfield is about the same distance as Syracuse is from Philly or NYC.

It is true, Syracuse is closer to Toronto (3 hours closer) and Montreal (1/2 hour closer). But, those are still a good 245-250 miles from Syracuse. Plus you have to cross an international border, so they are not exactly as convenient as NYC or Boston are to Springfield.
That is what an enhanced driver's license of passport if for. Ottawa is also about 3 hours or so from Syracuse.

With this said, I'm starting to think that Allentown/Bethlehem is more similar to Springfield than Syracuse is.
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Old 12-02-2015, 03:30 PM
 
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That is what an enhanced driver's license of passport if for. Ottawa is also about 3 hours or so from Syracuse.

With this said, I'm starting to think that Allentown/Bethlehem is more similar to Springfield than Syracuse is.
Yeah, I generally agree (minus the rowhouses of Allentown.) I would say you would want the architecture/built environment of Syracuse with the geographic location of Allentown.

Picking out a random street in Syracuse vs Springfiled, it is hard to tell the difference:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sy...ad9545!6m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1046...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Where Allentown has a slightly different quintessentially Penn/Mid Atlantic row house feel.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5973...8i6656!6m1!1e1
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:26 PM
 
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Yeah, I generally agree (minus the rowhouses of Allentown.) I would say you would want the architecture/built environment of Syracuse with the geographic location of Allentown.

Picking out a random street in Syracuse vs Springfiled, it is hard to tell the difference:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sy...ad9545!6m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.1046...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Where Allentown has a slightly different quintessentially Penn/Mid Atlantic row house feel.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.5973...8i6656!6m1!1e1
Is that the feel throughout Allentown, Syracuse and Springfield though? We could say that Rochester, Buffalo, Utica, Hartford, Waterbury and other similar cities have such neighborhoods similar to those examples from Syracuse and Springfield. I know that Syracuse has dense single family neighborhoods, but also has old money and suburban style neighborhoods as well like these examples:
https://goo.gl/maps/69zWP3Cts7F2

https://goo.gl/maps/YUrgkqyRrC72

This is another Allentown neighborhood:
https://goo.gl/maps/hhQqRpckhk92

Another Allentown neighborhood:
https://goo.gl/maps/5xEtWUxZZ5r

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Residential architecture in Springfield is a lot closer to Syracuse than Allentown, which as mentioned has a mid-Atlantic rowhouse look. Drove through Springfield a while back and took a few photos of a residential street south of downtown. I'd guess it wouldn't look too out of place in Syracuse.









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Old 12-03-2015, 02:55 PM
 
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Residential architecture in Springfield is a lot closer to Syracuse than Allentown, which as mentioned has a mid-Atlantic rowhouse look. Drove through Springfield a while back and took a few photos of a residential street south of downtown. I'd guess it wouldn't look too out of place in Syracuse.








No, but not to the immediate south of Downtown Syracuse, which has some public housing. https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0402...8i6656!6m1!1e1

To the west: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0519...8i6656!6m1!1e1

To the east: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0483...8i6656!6m1!1e1

To the north: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0558...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Some other areas of Syracuse: https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0533...8i6656!6m1!1e1

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0609...8i6656!6m1!1e1

Neighborhoods will be similar for most cities west of Albany into the Midwest, with some exceptions in PA. Demographically, Springfield and Allentown are more similar.
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Old 12-03-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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Neighborhoods will be similar for most cities west of Albany into the Midwest, with some exceptions in PA. Demographically, Springfield and Allentown are more similar.
I agree with you. While Springfield is most similar in terms of architecture to mid-sized cities in the Eastern Great Lakes Region, none of those cities are nearly as Hispanic as Springfield. Demographically, it's very similar to Allentown.


I also think Springfield is flatter than both Allentown and Syracuse (and Worcester too).
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