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Old 02-07-2008, 10:47 AM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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I agree. Most racists of the north are closet racists. It just amazed me moving here. I thought they loved everybody. What a joke, they just leave the noose laying around so nobody knows who they are. Disgusting!!!!!!!!!!
When Lincoln delivered his "Emancipation Proclamation" in 1863, is championed because it declared the freedom of slaves from Confederate states that had escaped to the Union. However, it conveniently did NOT free slaves that were already present in Union states. If you are a kid attending an elementary school in a Union state, as I was (in my case New Jersey) this fact was conveniently left out of the curriculum. Yet, there were slaves in Massachusetts, New York, etc. Vermont was the only state to have in its constitution that slavery was a banned practice.

 
Old 02-07-2008, 11:01 AM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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There are racists everywhere from all sides. End of conversation.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Here's my opinion:

PLEASE KNOCK IT OFF WITH THREADS THAT NECESSARILY PUT PEOPLE ON THE DEFENSIVE ABOUT THEIR OWN CITY/STATE/REGION/WHATEVER, especially on such subjective/unquantifiable and obviously controversial topics as racism. Nothing constructive comes out of them and it seems like little more than voyeurism and/or pot-stirring.

Thanks.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 12:57 PM
 
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Racism is a big problem. Pretending it doesn't exist, cutting off conversations about it, dictating what threads can and can't be posted -- not helpful. But very controlling, certainly. YUCK.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL
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Racism is a big problem. Pretending it doesn't exist, cutting off conversations about it, dictating what threads can and can't be posted -- not helpful. But very controlling, certainly. YUCK.
I agree. Nothing but positive insight seems to have come from this thread. Isn't that the point of an open internet forum in the first place?
 
Old 02-07-2008, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Racism is a big problem. Pretending it doesn't exist, cutting off conversations about it, dictating what threads can and can't be posted -- not helpful. But very controlling, certainly. YUCK.
There are ways to discuss the topic without inviting people to put entire states under a microscope. As for "dictating what threads can and can't be posted" -- this is a moderated, topic-delineated forum. There is a time and place for discussions like this, and that's why there's a separate "Politics and Other Controversies" forum here.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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Any red state (conservative states) you are more likely to find an abnormal amount of racist people.

Not really....I lived in Connecticut (blue state), from 2000-2004 and encountered just as meany racist as I do here in Texas (red state).

Racism is everywhere!!! Sad to say that even in 2008, but its true!
 
Old 02-07-2008, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Tampa Bay Area, FL
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There are ways to discuss the topic without inviting people to put entire states under a microscope. As for "dictating what threads can and can't be posted" -- this is a moderated, topic-delineated forum. There is a time and place for discussions like this, and that's why there's a separate "Politics and Other Controversies" forum here.
To some this may be controversial, to some this topic may be uninteresting, to others it is a interesting and debatable topic. This thread was posted under "general US" and this is a "general US" topic. Of course this is just my opinion and I thought that is what this is all about.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 02:24 PM
 
Location: The Rock!
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IMO, the only part about this topic that is in poor taste (and what I think Drover was really trying to hit on) is that the title topic is a tad leading and possibly even intentionally so in order to reinforce regiocentric stereotypes (red states are racist, blue states are not which is little more than saying my people are better than yours).

A more generic topic title that specified more than "opinion" would lead to realistic discussion of the problem of racism in this country. Perhaps, "Where have you seen or personally experienced racism in America."
 
Old 02-07-2008, 02:32 PM
 
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AL, MS, TX, IL-. There's a lot of racial tension in Illinois. I've gotten a lot of racially motivated mean mugging/dirty looks when venturing into all white/majority white neighborhoods. I've had other experiences too but I'm not going to go into them because I know they'll be brushed off or picked apart. I've been black for 20 something years now, I'm well aware of what racism is.
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