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Old 03-30-2016, 08:22 PM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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From the perspective of someone not from TX or LA, I would imagine that LA is still in the main part of Dixie. Everything about it just screams "deep south". How can it even be questioned. As far as Texas, though I personally consider it a southern state, I can see a mixture of opinions because of it's sheer size. It alone seems almost as big as the rest of Dixie combined! So in that size you have the eastern part which I would presume to be similar to other deep south states along the gulf, but you also have a large part influenced by Mexico and another part that seems more desert and the west. Those parts would take away it's southerness. Again, the state is huge and encompasses a great area and different regions. Ones perception will probably be dependent on what part of TX they consider the description of the whole state. Likewise LA, a much smaller state I feel pretty much encompasses the stereotypical south!
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Old 03-30-2016, 08:26 PM
 
Location: The Dirty South.
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What about central Texas
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Old 03-30-2016, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The part of Texas not considered all that southern is the far west and far south portions of the state, where the terrain, climate, and culture is significantly different from the south. Most of Texas is considered southern. Dallas and Houston are both southern cities. El Paso is the largest Texas city that is not.
Uh.

No.

Not remotely.
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Old 03-30-2016, 08:51 PM
 
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Cowboy culture and Mexican influence aren't very southern. There's too much of the Wild West in Texas.
I dont agree with that part about cowboy culture, at least from the states. country music and bob wills, Tennessee, rodeos, alot of that horse culture is very southern and western. The alamo was filled with southerners like Crockett and Sam Bowie.

alot of scot irish influence in texas music and history and cattle ranching, there was even a florida "cracker" cowboy culture, crack meaning the sound of the whips. I agree cowboy culture a mix of southern and western and vaquero and mexican/ latin american culture, texas is a nation unto itself in alot of ways

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Old 03-30-2016, 08:51 PM
 
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I would agree that Houston is a "southern" city, but Dallas is a hybrid of southern and great plains.
Wouldn't Houston be a hybrid of southern and Mexico?
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Old 03-30-2016, 08:56 PM
 
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All of Louisiana is southern to the core. There are many varieties of "southern" and Louisiana is just one variety. East Texas is another variety. Appalachia is another variety. The Low Country is another one. The Gulf. The Outer Banks. Tobacco country. The Chesapeake Bay area. I could go on but you get my drift.
You could say the same for Lubbock or Amarillo. El Paso or the RGV would be harder to argue but so is Miami in that case.

It's hard for me to think of New Orleans as being southern whento the core when so much of the population is Catholic. Protestant values practically define southern culture.
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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You could say the same for Lubbock or Amarillo. El Paso or the RGV would be harder to argue but so is Miami in that case.

It's hard for me to think of New Orleans as being southern whento the core when so much of the population is Catholic. Protestant values practically define southern culture.
Alot of the leading families in maryland were very southern and catholic in antebellum days, I think in Savannah as well, even a fictional character like Scarlett Ohara was a catholic in the novel. allen tate from I'll take my stand wanted the whole south to be Catholic because he felt the south had more in common with latin nations of europe in terms of climate and passions and architecture, the south just never had the number of catholics in the northeast. That is not as true now in the south today,even the older aristocracy was predominately episcopal and thats a denomination very very close to catholicism in alot of ways
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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You could say the same for Lubbock or Amarillo. El Paso or the RGV would be harder to argue but so is Miami in that case.

It's hard for me to think of New Orleans as being southern whento the core when so much of the population is Catholic. Protestant values practically define southern culture.
Didn't you ever watch or read "Gone With the Wind?"

Like I said, there are variations of southern. There's definitely such a thing as "Southern Catholic." I can promise you that - and it's not confined to Louisiana either.
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:30 PM
 
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Didn't you ever watch or read "Gone With the Wind?"

Like I said, there are variations of southern. There's definitely such a thing as "Southern Catholic." I can promise you that - and it's not confined to Louisiana either.
Never read GWTW . Of course Southern Catholic exists but it is the exception rather than the rule in virtually every southern city that ain't New Orleans.

Let's not even talk about the fact that there's nothing southern about the New Orleans accent.

I guess what I'm asking is if Lubbock or Amarillo would fit what you call southern and if not why.
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Denver
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New Orleans is in the south, but doesn't resemble much of the rest of the region. Still southern though. Cajun country (Lake Charles, Lafayette, Houma) is also still southern but more closely resembles the rest of the south.
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