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Old 03-30-2016, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Never read GWTW . Of course Southern Catholic exists but it is the exception rather than the rule in virtually every southern city that ain't New Orleans.

Let's not even talk about the fact that there's nothing southern about the New Orleans accent.

I guess what I'm asking is if Lubbock or Amarillo would fit what you call southern and if not why.
Well, maybe you're asking the wrong person. I am from Louisiana (New Orleans to be specific) and have lived the past 20 years or so in east Texas. I've also lived in GA, AL, NC, SC, VA, TN and AL. They're all different in many ways but they're all also Southern - and Louisiana is one of the most southern of the Deep South states. So sorry, but I don't "get" the premise of your original question.

All border states, including Texas, but also VA, TN, and AR, all have some elements of other regions in them the closer to the outside border you get. For instance, does northern Arkansas feel all that "southern?" To me, not particularly, but that doesn't mean that Arkansas in general isn't a southern state culturally.

As for Amarillo and Lubbock, it's been so long since I was in either of those cities that I really don't feel qualified to answer that question other than very vaguely - which is, "Those cities don't feel as southern to me as Houston or Dallas."

Louisiana isn't a very large state. That being said, there's a lot more to Louisiana than simply New Orleans. But New Orleans not southern? My gosh, it's so southern it makes my teeth hurt.
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Old 03-30-2016, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Wouldn't Houston be a hybrid of southern and Mexico?
Before 1970, Houston's demographics were in line with the rest of the South. A White and Black population.
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Old 03-30-2016, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Florida
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New Orleans and the rest of southern Louisiana was DEEP into the slave economy. Perhaps more so than any other state. The African and European cultures also blended there more than anywhere else. The French colonists were Catholic yes, but the French have long been noted for their lack of religiousness. And honestly I have never met a black person from Louisiana that said they are Catholic, so the religion didn't flow from the French to their fellow statesmen.
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Windsor Ontario/Colchester Ontario
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Well, maybe you're asking the wrong person. I am from Louisiana (New Orleans to be specific) and have lived the past 20 years or so in east Texas. I've also lived in GA, AL, NC, SC, VA, TN and AL. They're all different in many ways but they're all also Southern - and Louisiana is one of the most southern of the Deep South states. So sorry, but I don't "get" the premise of your original question.

All border states, including Texas, but also VA, TN, and AR, all have some elements of other regions in them the closer to the outside border you get. For instance, does northern Arkansas feel all that "southern?" To me, not particularly, but that doesn't mean that Arkansas in general isn't a southern state culturally.

As for Amarillo and Lubbock, it's been so long since I was in either of those cities that I really don't feel qualified to answer that question other than very vaguely - which is, "Those cities don't feel as southern to me as Houston or Dallas."

Louisiana isn't a very large state. That being said, there's a lot more to Louisiana than simply New Orleans. But New Orleans not southern? My gosh, it's so southern it makes my teeth hurt.
I wouldn't consider Tennessee a border state when it is directly south of Kentucky.
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Old 03-31-2016, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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I wouldn't consider Tennessee a border state when it is directly south of Kentucky.

Tennessee also borders Missouri.
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Old 03-31-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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While I suppose Texas was part of the South historically, I never personally think of Texas as a Southern state, but I've heard Eastern Texas is fairly Southern, and that's the only part of Texas I haven't been to. The rest of Texas I have been to seems to have fairly general American culture, not much different then Western state, most of the Midwest, or Florida. Southern states, New England, NYC, Chicago, Boston, and a handful of other places have their own distinct cultures to various extents, but I don't think most of Texas falls into a Southern cultural category, just the border areas of the state on the East side.
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Cbus
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Who says there needs to be one monolithic brand of "southerness"? Are the gullahs on the sea islands of the Carolinas southern? Are appalachians in north Georgia southern? Is Nashville really that similar to Natchez, Mississippi?
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Old 03-31-2016, 04:37 PM
 
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Who says there needs to be one monolithic brand of "southerness"? Are the gullahs on the sea islands of the Carolinas southern? Are appalachians in north Georgia southern? Is Nashville really that similar to Natchez, Mississippi?
very good post, there are tons of subcultures in the south. tidewater virginia and eastern shore maryland,low country south carolina ,piedmont ,cajun and acadian, kentucky bluegrass country, florida cracker culture, conch culture,gullah, delta Mississippi,southwestern texas,gulf culture, ozark and Appalachian, all the coastal cultures. look at all the food and cuisine in the various areas and all the different vegetable and fruits and plants grown all over the southern states , and the music!
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Old 03-31-2016, 06:58 PM
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Location: Miami
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the South is so diverse in cultures; you can't make a claim that Southern Louisiana isn't Southern when most of the culture was developed IN the South. lol
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Old 03-31-2016, 11:02 PM
 
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Southern Louisiana is the only region within the Deep South where the white population has been for a long time, predominantly Catholic and of more diverse European heritage. In Texas, the white population was more reflective of the Deep South's as in predominantly protestant, and mostly of English and or Scotch-Irish heritage.
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