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Old 04-03-2016, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Trieste
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Find a chart that shows household incomes by county
Find another map that shows Gini Index by county

the interlap the two

The best place where to live are where families are affluent but also where there are no terrific gap between the rich and the poor, that means more solidarity, more safety etc

first map:



second one:





at a first glance the best spots seem to me the counties south of Seattle-Tacoma, the densest part of Utah (leaving out Salt Lake City proper), the suburbs of Minneapolis and Milwaukee, the virginian counties south of Washington DC

the worst counties those from Texas along the border, the Native reserves in Dakota (I assume...), basically most of South, maybe leaving out Atlanta metro area, Eastern Kentucky and West Virginia
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:12 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The best place where to live are where families are affluent but also where there are no terrific gap between the rich and the poor, that means more solidarity, more safety etc.
There is some truth in that. However, you have to narrow it down by zip code to get a fairer, more accurate picture.

Americans tend to focus more on the immediate neighborhoods/suburbs where they live. They aren't particularly concerned about having solidarity with others across an entire county as long as where they live is fine.
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Old 04-03-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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So you'd make your decision on where to live based solely on money? Not a good idea, IMO. There are politics, weather, transportation, racial and ethnic makeup, family friendly or singles, employment opportunities, rural, small town, suburban, small city and big city decisions, and many others. The enormous size and variation in the US makes using any simple formula of where to live impossible.
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Old 04-04-2016, 05:47 PM
 
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I will say this - I run household income demographics as part of my job. I've never seen a more middle-class dominated metro than the Twin Cities. The outer ring suburbs are remarkably similar to one another.

Here's a neat median HH income map by census tract Median Income Across the US | WNYC

You can move the map, zoom in, click for data.
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Old 04-04-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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Here is another good source for this topic: Washington: A world apart | The Washington Post
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:58 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Here is another good source for this topic: Washington: A world apart | The Washington Post
I agree that this graphic gives you a much more accurate picture of where the affluence is in America.
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Old 04-05-2016, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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The best place where to live are where families are affluent but also where there are no terrific gap between the rich and the poor, that means more solidarity, more safety etc
Don't know that we can determine that affluence = best

Don't know that the county level is an an effective measure of gini, as counties can easily be economically segregated.
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Old 04-05-2016, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
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Don't know that we can determine that affluence = best

Don't know that the county level is an an effective measure of gini, as counties can easily be economically segregated.
NY Times did a study of counties where economic mobility was most easily achieved:

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The places most conducive to upward mobility include large cities — San Francisco, San Diego, Salt Lake City, Las Vegas and Providence, R.I. — and major suburban counties, such as Fairfax, Va.; Bergen, N.J.; Bucks, Pa.; Macomb, Mich.; Worcester, Mass.; and Contra Costa, Calif.

These places tend to share several traits, Mr. Hendren said. They have elementary schools with higher test scores, a higher share of two-parent families, greater levels of involvement in civic and religious groups and more residential integration of affluent, middle-class and poor families.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/04/up...f-poverty.html
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Trieste
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So you'd make your decision on where to live based solely on money?
No, I 'm looking for a place where people have empathy for each other, share wealth, are willin to pay taxes and feel being part of a community, like Japan, New Zealand or Scandinavian countries

you'll find that only in places where income gap are tiny

in a city where the gap is high the poors will feel resentment toward the rich and these won't pay any welfare to the poors, it'll be a very divided and full of tension place, crime ridden also.
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Old 04-05-2016, 01:42 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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No, I 'm looking for a place where people have empathy for each other, share wealth, are willin to pay taxes and feel being part of a community, like Japan, New Zealand or Scandinavian countries...you'll find that only in places where income gap are tiny...in a city where the gap is high the poors will feel resentment toward the rich and these won't pay any welfare to the poors, it'll be a very divided and full of tension place, crime ridden also.
There are NO countries like that! Empathy? Having people feel they're part of the community? Like with taking in refugees?
Hmm:
Japan only took in 27 refugees in 2016: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...e-entire-year/
Of course, if you like Japan anyway, hope you're a senior citizen, you'll feel right at home: Japan is home to the world's oldest population

New Zealand has a refugee quota programme which offers only 750 places per year: Refugee and Protection Unit

As for Scandanavia:
Finland: Refugees are leaving: Thousands of Iraqi refugees leave Finland voluntarily | Reuters
Norway getting tough:Norway's integration minister: We can't be like Sweden - The Local
Sweden suing Germany to take refugees off their hands:Sweden threatens to take Germany to court over refugee crisis TRUNEWS with Rick Wiles

And for that matter, how is Italy doing? looks like it doesn't even want ethnic food: Italian city to limit 'ethnic eateries' after explosion in kebab shops - Telegraph
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