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Old 04-08-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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The Detroit Metro is still down over 200,000 jobs from its peak employment in the 2000s. Chicago metro currently has the most jobs in its history. Detroit simply has further ground to make up.
First, your data is wrong. Chicago is far from "most jobs in its history". It is one of the few metros that hasn't recovered all its jobs from the previous recession (Detroit is another).

Second, past performance is irrelevant. We're talking current performance. Currently, Detroit is performing better than Chicago. Of course Chicago is a much better city overall, but you can't argue Census data.
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Old 04-08-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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First, your data is wrong. Chicago is far from "most jobs in its history". It is one of the few metros that hasn't recovered all its jobs from the previous recession (Detroit is another).

Second, past performance is irrelevant. We're talking current performance. Currently, Detroit is performing better than Chicago. Of course Chicago is a much better city overall, but you can't argue Census data.

You are wrong, current non farm payroll is 4,542,000. Highest on record.

Chicago : Midwest Information Office : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Willowbend/Houston
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I really don't buy the taxes angle. Illinois has a flat state income tax rate that's under 4%. Let's rounded up to four. A household with an income of $200,000 would pay 8000 in state tax. I can't imagine relocating to Texas for $8000 a year. It's even more ridiculous to think of a household making 100,000 or less moving to a different state for savings of less than $4000.
People go where the jobs are.
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Old 04-08-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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People go where the jobs are.
Unemployed people do. Chicago is not hurting for jobs.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:24 PM
 
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I really don't buy the taxes angle. Illinois has a flat state income tax rate that's under 4%. Let's rounded up to four. A household with an income of $200,000 would pay 8000 in state tax. I can't imagine relocating to Texas for $8000 a year. It's even more ridiculous to think of a household making 100,000 or less moving to a different state for savings of less than $4000.


Let's also include property taxes, housing costs, gas costs, tolls, etc. Everyone knows living in Chicagoland ain't cheap.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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Let's also include property taxes, housing costs, gas costs, tolls, etc. Everyone knows living in Chicagoland ain't cheap.

It's not as expensive as some cities, though.
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Old 04-08-2016, 01:42 PM
 
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Let's also include property taxes, housing costs, gas costs, tolls, etc. Everyone knows living in Chicagoland ain't cheap.
If you look at city alone, Chicago is cheaper than most of the top 10 largest cities. If you extend that out to Cook and Lake counties, it's still cheaper than most metros. I'm not concerned with the overall MSA or CSA because I'm never going to live an hour away from the city.
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Old 04-08-2016, 02:04 PM
 
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It's not as expensive as some cities, though.


But still more expensive than most. Chicagolanders do not move to northwest Indiana for the climate.
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Old 04-08-2016, 02:26 PM
 
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But still more expensive than most. Chicagolanders do not move to northwest Indiana for the climate.
Or, to SE Wisconsin. They still keep their jobs in Chicago, though, and are still in the metro.
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Old 04-08-2016, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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People are sick of the corruption, the high taxes, the debt, the crime... then they move elsewhere and vote in the same elements that got Chicago into the mess its currently in. Brilliant!!!
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