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Old 04-07-2016, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I have lived in Phoenix, Denver and Las Vegas and each city has one thing in common and that's the rush of people from Chicago and Illinois who seem to do leaving in droves

I was in Florida and in Sarasota it had many people with Chicago accents in it.

It seems like no matter where I go there is a tsunami of people escaping Chicago for a better life.

It seems as though even in places like Vegas and Phoenix there are more Chicago accents then people from Los Angeles.

Any one else's city also experiencing a influx of people from Chicago moving to there city?
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Old 04-07-2016, 11:11 PM
 
Location: The Pacific Northwest
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This should actually be in the Illinois forum but... In Kansas City there are a LOT of Chicago transplants.

However, I completely disagree about Denver Phoenix and Las Vegas having the most transplants from Chicago. There are FAR more California transplants in all three of those cities, and it's not really close. One obvious reason is that California's population is 3 times that of Illinois and there are just as many reasons for people to want to leave California. There just isn't as large of a perception that people are leaving California in droves (which they are) because there is high immigration to California which makes up for domestic population hemorrhaging. There isn't as much immigration to Chicagoland to mask that.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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I have lived in Phoenix, Denver and Las Vegas and each city has one thing in common and that's the rush of people from Chicago and Illinois who seem to do leaving in droves

I was in Florida and in Sarasota it had many people with Chicago accents in it.

It seems like no matter where I go there is a tsunami of people escaping Chicago for a better life.

It seems as though even in places like Vegas and Phoenix there are more Chicago accents then people from Los Angeles.

Any one else's city also experiencing a influx of people from Chicago moving to there city?
I can't comment on how many people are currently leaving Chicago or Illinois, but wow I have to agree about Sarasota. I was there the last two weeks and I'd venture to say 25% of the people I talked to were from Chicago or its suburbs.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:12 AM
 
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Premature Chicago grave dancing seems to be one of his forum's favorite pastimes. Chicago remains an alpha plus world city. It is at worst, the third or fourth most important city in the country. Only New York tops it for urbanity. Crime is fairly isolated on the south and west sides. The cost-of-living is low, and the job market strong. When comparing comparable neighborhoods, it's housing costs are lower than Charlotte or Baltimore.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:22 AM
 
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I have lived in Phoenix, Denver and Las Vegas and each city has one thing in common and that's the rush of people from Chicago and Illinois who seem to do leaving in droves

I was in Florida and in Sarasota it had many people with Chicago accents in it.

It seems like no matter where I go there is a tsunami of people escaping Chicago for a better life.

It seems as though even in places like Vegas and Phoenix there are more Chicago accents then people from Los Angeles.

Any one else's city also experiencing a influx of people from Chicago moving to there city?
You assume people in these cities are from Chicago because of their "accents" People from colder climates travel, or spend a couple months a year in Arizona or Florida...maybe that's what you "heard?" Life in Chicago is just fine. Wrong forum, too.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:23 AM
 
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I can't comment on how many people are currently leaving Chicago or Illinois, but wow I have to agree about Sarasota. I was there the last two weeks and I'd venture to say 25% of the people I talked to were from Chicago or its suburbs.
There for spring break???? Yes, many from Wisconsin are there in March and April, too.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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There for spring break???? Yes, many from Wisconsin are there in March and April, too.
Elderly mainly.
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Old 04-08-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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Premature Chicago grave dancing seems to be one of his forum's favorite pastimes. Chicago remains an alpha plus world city. It is at worst, the third or fourth most important city in the country. Only New York tops it for urbanity. Crime is fairly isolated on the south and west sides. The cost-of-living is low, and the job market strong. When comparing comparable neighborhoods, it's housing costs are lower than Charlotte or Baltimore.
It's a great city and its not the next Detroit as some have claimed but there are very real structural issues in the city and the state. The state pulled an Office Soace and just decided to not pay their bills anymore Illinois budget fix: Just don't pay the bills

The pension crisis is legit. Chicago keeps hiking taxes. Infrastructure is going grossly unimproved. And for the first year the Chicago metro had a net loss of population.

I moved last summer back to MN from Chicago area after being there for 10 years. I'm 33, young family, promising career. When we rented a one-way moving truck I had to go to Northwest Indiana (and I lived in the NW burbs of Chicago) just to find a truck. Every rental place said 'we have way more people moving out of state and can't keep enough one ways coming back.'

I just couldn't see us hitching our families long term future to a state that's failing.

BUT... There are still economic, cultural and social opportunities there that can't be replicated outside of NYC. It is a world class city. My opinion is that the middle class will largely be pushed out. Areas of affluence (like North Side, North Shore burbs, West burbs) will remain largely the same. And low income areas can't get much worse (south and west side of the city). But reasonable middle class existence? I'm very bearish on that in Chicagoland TBH. Most of my friends who are still there that are our age wish they could move but because of family/career they feel stuck.
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Old 04-08-2016, 07:02 AM
 
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Elderly mainly.

No families. I said spring break...that's when kids are off from school. I didn't mean snowbirds.
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Old 04-08-2016, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I'll be leaving in ~2 years. Just done with the Midwest in general, I think it's slowly killing me. Can't take these 6 month winters anymore.
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