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Old 04-24-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Even Houston, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Tampa and Toronto, the 5 3 sport markets of North America.
Toronto Maple Leafs, Toronto Blue Jays, Toronto Raptors, Toronto FC.
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Old 04-24-2016, 02:46 PM
 
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Toronto Maple Leafs, Toronto Blue Jays, Toronto Raptors, Toronto FC.
MLS isn't on the level of NBA/NHL/MLB/NFL.
The NHL is in the back of the pack of the major leagues, and what do you think would happen to Toronto if they lost the Leafs? or if Chicago lost the Blackhawks? Would the Revolution still have an active boosters club 20 years after their dissolution like the Hartford Whalers? Hockey>Soccer in North America. If Toronto FC or the Chicago Fire left, most of the city would shrug it off, and not really care, outside of They (insert city) got a team over us, They are losers
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Old 04-24-2016, 04:22 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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if you ain't got 5, you're just a blip
Denver has 5; Broncos, Rockies, Nuggets, Avs, Rapids.
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Old 04-24-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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PHOENIX, AZ has 19 teams....Cardinals, Suns, Coyotes, Dbacks, Rattlers, Mercury, MLB Catus League teams !
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Old 04-25-2016, 06:13 AM
 
Location: NYC/CLE
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Toronto Maple Leafs, Toronto Blue Jays, Toronto Raptors, Toronto FC.
The MLS does not count.
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Old 04-25-2016, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Toronto Maple Leafs, Toronto Blue Jays, Toronto Raptors, Toronto FC.

good point, plus they have the CFL Argonauts which even the heavyweights in the states can't claim
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Old 04-25-2016, 08:24 AM
 
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What is the 4th sport if people don't count MLS..? I guess if you live up north you might make a claim for the NHL.
This was on the sports documentary "30 of 30: Broke". In terms of TV viewership ratings (by millions). The documentary came out in 2012, so the stats are pretty recent.

NFL: 11.7
NASCAR: 6.5
NBA: 2.5
MLB: 2.3
NHL: 1.2
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Old 04-25-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Somerville, MA
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if you ain't got 5, you're just a blip
Exactly. Lots of people around the world are looking at Seattle and saying, "So what if it's strong economically, culturally, and in almost every other facet; it doesn't have an NBA or NHL franchise so it's a useless backwater."
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Old 04-25-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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The MLB is the greatest baseball league in the world.
The NBA is the greatest basketball league in the world.
The NFL is the greatest football league in the world.
The NHL is the greatest hockey league in the world.
The MLS is the 8th greatest soccer league in the western hemisphere.

Soccer people need to get a grip and stop insisting that the MLS should happen. I like soccer too. But saying the MLS is legit to count as a major sport would be like saying a double A baseball team is pretty much the same as an MLB one.
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Old 04-25-2016, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Somerville, MA
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The MLB is the greatest baseball league in the world.
The NBA is the greatest basketball league in the world.
The NFL is the greatest football league in the world.
The NHL is the greatest hockey league in the world.
The MLS is the 8th greatest soccer league in the western hemisphere.

Soccer people need to get a grip and stop insisting that the MLS should happen. I like soccer too. But saying the MLS is legit to count as a major sport would be like saying a double A baseball team is pretty much the same as an MLB one.
I get your point, but it's the greatest soccer league in the United States- a country of 325,000,000 people, unlike AA Baseball which is third tier in this country. We don't have the opportunity to go to Premier League games here in the states (well, aside from the occasional friendly played here). So as far as that sport goes, MLS is the best we've got here. MLS and soccer popularity are also growing rapidly in the U.S. (especially among young people). MLS games are drawing more fans than NHL and NBA games in most cases (both in terms of sheer numbers and percentages), and the attendance trend is moving upwards. I'd argue that MLS is far more comparable to NCAA football or basketball (which also don't have the same talent level that the best leagues do) than minor league baseball. No, the talent isn't on par with the best of the best, but it's still very good and getting better. It's also the best around as far as soccer goes.
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