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Old 04-24-2016, 07:15 PM
 
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I might have asked something similar before but am expanding the search. I'm looking for a city with the right weather but can't afford California. My husband hates winters and I hate summers with a passion. If I had to describe perfect weather I'd say 65 and sunny. I would say our budget is 300-400k (maybe a bit more if it's a higher paying city) and the larger the metro area the better. Any suggestions that would be a good compromise where we can both be happy? We both know well have to sacrifice a bit. Also, I think PNW may be out of the question since the constant drizzle does not appeal to me. Thanks.
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:33 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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...can't afford California.
Yes you can:

Oxnard---http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Oxnard_CA/type-single-family-home,condo-townhome-row-home-co-op/price-na-400000/sby-2

Also possible is Port Hueneme, Ventura
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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You want a cheap California. We all do. That's why California is expensive in the first place, because most people likes the same thing you do. You're going to have to sacrifice somewhere or win the lottery. Sacrificing one of your requirements sounds a little more realistic.

- Lower living standards for California, OR
- Longer summers, better winters, 4 seasons OR
- Longer winters, better summers, 4 seasons OR
- Balanced 4 seasons (that are probably rarely 65 and sunny and go above and below this often), OR
- Temperate weather without 4 seasons:
- hotter and sunnier (Phoenix, ABQ, Las Vegas, etc.),
- colder and more overcast (Seattle, Portland),
- hotter and more overcast (Florida, Houston, New Orleans, etc.),
- colder and sunnier (SLC, Denver, Boise, etc.)
Note that the sunny and hot places still reach freezing and get ice in the mornings, and that the sunny and cold places still can reach 90s in the summer. Also note that hotter, sunnier, colder, and more overcast are in comparison to your 65 and sunny ideal weather that would fit only the Bay Area.

So what sounds the best to you? Then we can make recommendations. I don't know which one you'd prefer.
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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Really I want to live in Chicago or Minneapolis and he wants to live in Florida. Guess 4 balanced seasons is the best way to meet in the middle. I've taken note of some of the places you've mentioned. Thanks!
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Old 04-24-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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You want a cheap California. We all do. That's why California is expensive in the first place, because most people likes the same thing you do. You're going to have to sacrifice somewhere or win the lottery. Sacrificing one of your requirements sounds a little more realistic.

- Lower living standards for California, OR
- Longer summers, better winters, 4 seasons OR
- Longer winters, better summers, 4 seasons OR
- Balanced 4 seasons (that are probably rarely 65 and sunny and go above and below this often), OR
- Temperate weather without 4 seasons:
- hotter and sunnier (Phoenix, ABQ, Las Vegas, etc.),
- colder and more overcast (Seattle, Portland),
- hotter and more overcast (Florida, Houston, New Orleans, etc.),
- colder and sunnier (SLC, Denver, Boise, etc.)
Note that the sunny and hot places still reach freezing and get ice in the mornings, and that the sunny and cold places still can reach 90s in the summer. Also note that hotter, sunnier, colder, and more overcast are in comparison to your 65 and sunny ideal weather that would fit only the Bay Area.

So what sounds the best to you? Then we can make recommendations. I don't know which one you'd prefer.
Don't totally agree with you on the "we ALL do" thing about CA. It's expensive mostly due to population density/high taxation, not because everyone is flooding the state (thought high growth rates can drive up RE prices over time). CA is a good place in many ways, but has just as many key negatives as most other states. Far from perfect. There would be many other states I'd rather live than CA, even if the COL was lower. I'm honestly not putting CA down, just think it's only fair to note that CA isn't necessarily as perfect as TV and movies make it out to be. And, yes, I've been to CA, lol and very familiar with the state.
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:01 PM
 
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Oh and while I think 65 and sunny is ideal weather.....I'm not necessarily looking for that since I k n ow I have to compromise. It just happens to be the temp where were both happy
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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Don't totally agree with you on the "we ALL do" thing about CA. It's expensive mostly due to population density/high taxation, not because everyone is flooding the state (thought high growth rates can drive up RE prices over time). CA is a good place in many ways, but has just as many key negatives as most other states. Far from perfect. There would be many other states I'd rather live than CA, even if the COL was lower. I'm honestly not putting CA down, just think it's only fair to note that CA isn't necessarily as perfect as TV and movies make it out to be. And, yes, I've been to CA, lol and very familiar with the state.
I'm saying the weather is near perfect for the majority of human beings. There are people out there that would prefer Alaska in weather I'm sure but they would be a minority. California's mild Mediterranean climate is the most ideal for most people, and there's a couple of threads that can show you that.

Yes California is not perfect, but some people are willing to put up with the high density and taxation for the weather and the recreation it offers (it's pretty hard to beat IMO). A lot of people are by the proof that it's expensive and the real estate market hasn't necessarily "corrected" itself to match closer to wages of the locals. It matches closer to those who can afford vacation homes and are millionaires, who have the money to buy anywhere they want, they pick California for a reason.

I personally would never live in California. I know next to nothing about Northern California but I practically spent every summer in San Diego and just more recently, Los Angeles, and I wasn't fond of it. There are other places in the country I'd prefer. But if California was cheaper, and had less traffic (the highway traffic almost made me want to commit homicide), it definitely would be more towards the top of my list. But since it will never be like that, ever, I will never consider it.

OP: Balanced four seasons? North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, Kentucky, Maryland.
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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Perhaps Delaware and you can hit up Philly and Baltimore whenever you feel like it? Maybe a place like Newark, Middletown or the Wilmington suburbs may be worth a look.
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Old 04-24-2016, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Really I want to live in Chicago or Minneapolis and he wants to live in Florida. Guess 4 balanced seasons is the best way to meet in the middle. I've taken note of some of the places you've mentioned. Thanks!
Good for you to want those two Midwestern cities! I agree!! But as a compromise with Florida, what about St. Louis or Atlanta? Between those two the average may be closer to 65 degrees, and more or less four seasons (or three), with some of the same kinds of values you seek in Mpls or Chicago. I realize there's no perfect fit but compromise is key to a marriage, so you'll figure it out.
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Old 04-24-2016, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Oh and while I think 65 and sunny is ideal weather.....I'm not necessarily looking for that since I k n ow I have to compromise. It just happens to be the temp where were both happy
Nobody gets perfect weather, and even when they practically do (like CA), they still complain. So my advice would be to throw weather out of equation and focus on the other key attributes you two feel are most important.
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