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Old 04-26-2016, 12:05 PM
 
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The Rust Belt is a term for the region straddling the upper Northeastern United States, the Great Lakes, and the Midwest States, referring to economic decline, population loss, and urban decay due to the shrinking of its once powerful industrial sector. Based on this definition how would you categorize the various Midwestern cities?

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Not rust belt:
Minneapolis-St. Paul
Columbus
Indianapolis
Kansas City
Omaha
Madison
Des Moines
Ann Arbor

Debatable
Cleveland (making a comeback but not sure if there is a ton of population growth in city limits)
Cincinnati (Not sure where to categorize Cincy)
Pittsburgh (also having a renaissance, not sure to what extent though)
Chicago (losing population, still the most powerful economic force in the Midwest by far)
Milwaukee (not familiar with it, so that's the main reason for this category)

Solidly Rustbelt
Detroit (proper)
St. Louis
Akron
Dayton
Gary
Flint
Toledo
Youngstown

 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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I think of all the debatable cities above as rust belt. It just means they had a very industrial past and the 70s and 80s recessions hit them very hard. That's what I always thought.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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For some smaller non-rust belt cities, one could include Champaign and Bloomington, IL; definitely rust belt could include Duluth, MN; Decatur, IL; and Green Bay, WI.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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I think of all the debatable cities above as rust belt. It just means they had a very industrial past and the 70s and 80s recessions hit them very hard. That's what I always thought.
Well the question I'm posing is are they still in the rustbelt? A city like Flint, Michigan or Gary, Indiana hasn't recovered in the same way (or at all) like Cleveland has.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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For some smaller non-rust belt cities, one could include Champaign and Bloomington, IL; definitely rust belt could include Duluth, MN; Decatur, IL; and Green Bay, WI.
I think large state universities definitely help out these smaller cities. I'm not as familiar with the upper Midwest so I wouldn't have known to identify Green Bay or Duluth.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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Pittsburgh is not a Midwestern city. Chicago is not a Rust Belt city.

I don't think Rust Belt means what you think it does.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Pittsburgh is not a Midwestern city. Chicago is not a Rust Belt city.

I don't think Rust Belt means what you think it does.
I used a definition provided online, if you have one that you think is more appropriate feel free to share.

Whether Pittsburgh is in the Midwest or not is debatable. Being from the NYC area I find that it has much more in common with Cleveland or Cincinnati than with Philadelphia or New York or Boston, but everyone is entitled to their opinion and mine certainly isn't the only one.

In terms of Chicago not being a rust-belt city I would agree that it's economy is large and diverse enough that it doesn't fit the industrial conditions of a rustbelt city. In terms of population decline it certainly does though.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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Chicago would probably be more accurately described as a recovered Rust Belt city.

But if this list were to include all Rust Belt cities, I'd throw Buffalo in as solidly Rust Belt. Depending on how far east you're willing to push the boundaries, Camden would also be considered as solidly Rust Belt.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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Chicago would probably be more accurately described as a recovered Rust Belt city.

But if this list were to include all Rust Belt cities, I'd throw Buffalo in as solidly Rust Belt. Depending on how far east you're willing to push the boundaries, Camden would also be considered as solidly Rust Belt.
Camden is definitely an east coast rustbelt city (I would include Trenton, Camden, Newark and pretty much any other urban center in New Jersey besides Hoboken/Jersey City.
 
Old 04-26-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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Camden is definitely an east coast rustbelt city (I would include Trenton, Camden, Newark and pretty much any other urban center in New Jersey besides Hoboken/Jersey City.
Yeah Newark as well, and if you go up to CT, then I believe Bridgeport would qualify too. Not as familiar with Trenton, but I'd think that being the state capital would kinda soften any Rust Belt effect.
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