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Old 05-02-2016, 11:23 PM
 
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I'd move to a place you like better. Your kids won't stay little forever, and they will likely take on the values of their community. Parents are important, but as they grow, friends are too.

Maybe look for a college town? We live near a university and there are loads of fun, cheap and educational things to do. And there are liberals galore.
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:11 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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You sound like you'd really like the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Educated population, lots of neighborhoods and suburbs you can afford, great hockey, not overly religious. Tons of colleges so ideas flourish. And you can be out of town in less than a half hour in any direction.

Sorry just saw your husband has a very specific job/industry. Don't know if there are any close offices to Twin Cities.
That's the biggest hindrance. Forest Service locations are usually in Podunk towns in the middle of nowhere. I've spent hours studying maps of FS offices and their proximity to larger towns. For some reason Montana is the anomaly in that there are FS offices in almost every major (for MT standards) city. That doesn't happen often. They're also near Denver and SLC. I wish we could live in the Twin Cities.


I was really trying to convince myself that I could make the best of it and just take advantage of the low cost of living but I know I'm just kidding myself. I've been miserable since we got here and spent too much time in tears. It was nice to hear other people value a better place to live as well.

Missoula, MT and Olympia, WA are jobs coming down the pike that I'm optimistic about. Kalispell, MT to a lesser extent.


Does anyone know if a commute from Tacoma to Olympia is reasonable?
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:17 AM
 
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Yeah, if you have options, life is too short to hate where you live. You can make the most of it for a time but if it's not getting any better...

Good luck. Hopefully you and your family find the right mix for both your husbands career and your wishes!
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:22 AM
 
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Yeah, if you have options, life is too short to hate where you live. You can make the most of it for a time but if it's not getting any better...

Good luck. Hopefully you and your family find the right mix for both your husbands career and your wishes!
We need to find that magical spot. We both liked living in Helena, MT but he was MISERABLE at his job because of the office dynamics so I agreed to move. Now I'm miserable.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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Actually, it appears that there is a forest not too far from Philadelphia, that is in NJ.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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Actually, it appears that there is a forest not too far from Philadelphia, that is in NJ.
No National Forest property in New Jersey. It must be a state forest. He's not going to leave the Federal Government.
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Old 05-03-2016, 08:52 AM
 
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This is on the National list: Silas Little Experimental Forest - Northern Research Station - USDA Forest Service
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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What about the Black Hills? It's not liberal but people generally leave you alone. There are lots of things for kids and plenty of opportunities to get outdoors. There is hockey here. I think housing is a little pricey, but if you have a budget of at least $200K you wouldn't have any trouble finding something suitable.
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Old 05-03-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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Like I said, research forests are not likely to happen. That's just not the direction of his career or experience. He'll be a program manager or a district ranger.
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Old 05-03-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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Didn't realize there were so many!

USDA Forest Service - Experimental Forests and Ranges
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