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Old 05-03-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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Mainly the weather (I don't do well in extreme heat and humidity) and also the lack of hockey. But I won't lie, my atheism and liberal ways will put me at odds. I don't expect to be surrounded by likeminded people but I don't want to be ostracized either. Considering we won't end up on a major metro it just is what it is.

I still keep an open mind when job opportunities come up anywhere. I am open to Asheville but again, the lack of hockey is a tough pill to swallow.
Actually there is a hockey team (NHL's Carolina Hurricane)in the Raleigh-Durham area and in terms of like-minded liberals Durham and neighboring Chapel Hill-Carrboro rival Asheville as well as other liberal bastions in the US. The Raleigh-Durham area is an economic juggernaut with plenty of job opportunity for most professionals and in terms of extreme heat and humidity, not so much. Like pretty much any other four season climate, there is a summer with about three months of the season to deal with and of that perhaps a few weeks you might find undesirable and perhaps when one thinks of vacation away (like most do).
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Old 05-03-2016, 10:50 AM
 
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Like I said, research forests are not likely to happen. That's just not the direction of his career or experience. He'll be a program manager or a district ranger.
Sorry, I was not aware of the different types of forests.
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Old 05-03-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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Actually there is a hockey team (NHL's Carolina Hurricane)in the Raleigh-Durham area and in terms of like-minded liberals Durham and neighboring Chapel Hill-Carrboro rival Asheville as well as other liberal bastions in the US. The Raleigh-Durham area is an economic juggernaut with plenty of job opportunity for most professionals and in terms of extreme heat and humidity, not so much. Like pretty much any other four season climate, there is a summer with about three months of the season to deal with and of that perhaps a few weeks you might find undesirable and perhaps when one thinks of vacation away (like most do).
Unfortunately, there aren't any forests close enough to the area for it to work.


As for the OP, it may look like maybe Portland OR, which has some forests nearby, but I'm not sure that it fulfills all of the criteria. There's Salt Lake City UT, Grand Rapids MI and perhaps Boise ID could be other options.


I don't know if this national forest 40 minutes from Portland ME could work: Massabesic Experimental Forest - Northern Research Station - USDA Forest Service


Ok, perhaps this national forest northeast of Albany NY and south of Burlington VT may be an option: Green Mountain & Finger Lakes National Forests - Home Depending on which ranger station/district in the forest, one of those areas could be an option. Middlebury and Rochester are closer to Burlington and Manchester is closer to Albany.


There is a ranger station in Hector NY in the Finger Lakes, not too far from Ithaca(about 24 minutes) and that would be a very good fit in terms of what you are looking for from Hockey(school and Cornell University, with other cities on the minor league level not too far away), very good schools to the liberal vibe and the diversity. Finger Lakes National Forest - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation


Finger Lakes National Forest


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger...ational_Forest


https://www.americanforests.org/maga...re-than-lakes/


Ithaca School District


Ithaca Youth Hockey Association

Tompkins Girls Hockey Association

TC United Soccer Club - Home Page

********** TC Waza Academy - Home

Lansing Soccer Club

Ithaca Youth Bureau Rec Dept - Home

Ithaca, NY - Official Website | Official Website

Visit Ithaca, NY - Official Site for Ithaca, NY & Tompkins County | Visit Ithaca, NY

Downtown Ithaca - Downtown Ithaca Alliance

This may be another Northeastern option, with a possibility to live in Olean NY maybe working: Allegheny National Forest - Home


City Of Olean


Olean City School District / Home Page


www.oleanyouthhockey.com


There is a Ranger Station in Bradford PA.

For other suggestions, this may help: Interactive Visitor Map According to this map, Raleigh may still be in play, but I'm not sure about youth hockey programs in the area.

Also, if you are interested in the Hector location, there may be other towns that you may like such as Trumansburg, Watkins Glen, Horseheads and Lansing. Ithaca City School District also covers areas outside of Ithaca city limits. So, that may be something to consider.

There is also a Lacrosse scene in the area, along with other sports.

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Old 05-03-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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Hector, NY looks like an option. The rest are too far from any town of substance.

There isn't an office close enough to Raleigh. I've already said no to New Bern, NC. I keep Asheville as an option but I'm not thrilled about it.

Being tied to the Forest Service is frustrating if you don't want to live in the middle of nowhere.
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Old 05-03-2016, 12:34 PM
 
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Hector, NY looks like an option. The rest are too far from any town of substance.

There isn't an office close enough to Raleigh. I've already said no to New Bern, NC. I keep Asheville as an option but I'm not thrilled about it.

Being tied to the Forest Service is frustrating if you don't want to live in the middle of nowhere.
What may help with Hector is that if you live in the Ithaca area, you have other areas within an hour or 2 that are bigger(Syracuse, Rochester and Binghamton)that you could go to as well. You also have Corning with its Glass Museum and nice Downtown due to Fortune 500 company Corning Incorporated. So, while it may seem isolated, it isn't that bad in that regard.

You may be interested in this as well: Cornell University

Cornell University

Elmira JackalsElmira Jackals Hockey

The Official Site of the Binghamton Senators: Home

Syracuse Crunch

Rochester Americans (AHL)

Syracuse University Athletics

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Old 05-03-2016, 06:58 PM
 
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That's the biggest hindrance. Forest Service locations are usually in Podunk towns in the middle of nowhere. I've spent hours studying maps of FS offices and their proximity to larger towns. For some reason Montana is the anomaly in that there are FS offices in almost every major (for MT standards) city. That doesn't happen often. They're also near Denver and SLC. I wish we could live in the Twin Cities.


I was really trying to convince myself that I could make the best of it and just take advantage of the low cost of living but I know I'm just kidding myself. I've been miserable since we got here and spent too much time in tears. It was nice to hear other people value a better place to live as well.

Missoula, MT and Olympia, WA are jobs coming down the pike that I'm optimistic about. Kalispell, MT to a lesser extent.


Does anyone know if a commute from Tacoma to Olympia is reasonable?
Why commute from Tacoma? Why not live in Olympia? Olympic is a cool little town.

Yes, the commute, like all commutes in the area, can be brutal. You will have to deal with all of the traffic going to and from the McChord/ Ft Lewis military base. But I guess it depends on your definition of reasonable. It's about 35 minutes with no traffic and about an hour with rush hour traffic. If there is an accident it can be much worse.
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:25 AM
 
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Unfortunately, there aren't any forests close enough to the area for it to work.


As for the OP, it may look like maybe Portland OR, which has some forests nearby, but I'm not sure that it fulfills all of the criteria. There's Salt Lake City UT, Grand Rapids MI and perhaps Boise ID could be other options.


I don't know if this national forest 40 minutes from Portland ME could work: Massabesic Experimental Forest - Northern Research Station - USDA Forest Service


Ok, perhaps this national forest northeast of Albany NY and south of Burlington VT may be an option: Green Mountain & Finger Lakes National Forests - Home Depending on which ranger station/district in the forest, one of those areas could be an option. Middlebury and Rochester are closer to Burlington and Manchester is closer to Albany.


There is a ranger station in Hector NY in the Finger Lakes, not too far from Ithaca(about 24 minutes) and that would be a very good fit in terms of what you are looking for from Hockey(school and Cornell University, with other cities on the minor league level not too far away), very good schools to the liberal vibe and the diversity. Finger Lakes National Forest - NYS Dept. of Environmental Conservation


Finger Lakes National Forest


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finger...ational_Forest


https://www.americanforests.org/maga...re-than-lakes/


Ithaca School District


Ithaca Youth Hockey Association

Tompkins Girls Hockey Association

TC United Soccer Club - Home Page

********** TC Waza Academy - Home

Lansing Soccer Club

Ithaca Youth Bureau Rec Dept - Home

Ithaca, NY - Official Website | Official Website

Visit Ithaca, NY - Official Site for Ithaca, NY & Tompkins County | Visit Ithaca, NY

Downtown Ithaca - Downtown Ithaca Alliance

This may be another Northeastern option, with a possibility to live in Olean NY maybe working: Allegheny National Forest - Home


City Of Olean


Olean City School District / Home Page


www.oleanyouthhockey.com


There is a Ranger Station in Bradford PA.

For other suggestions, this may help: Interactive Visitor Map According to this map, Raleigh may still be in play, but I'm not sure about youth hockey programs in the area.

Also, if you are interested in the Hector location, there may be other towns that you may like such as Trumansburg, Watkins Glen, Horseheads and Lansing. Ithaca City School District also covers areas outside of Ithaca city limits. So, that may be something to consider.

There is also a Lacrosse scene in the area, along with other sports.
This is an area of Ithaca that may be a good fit in terms of a short(er) commute, with close proximity to the city of Ithaca: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nort...haca,_New_York

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfield,_New_York

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_(town),_New_York (western portion)
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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Why commute from Tacoma? Why not live in Olympia? Olympic is a cool little town.

Yes, the commute, like all commutes in the area, can be brutal. You will have to deal with all of the traffic going to and from the McChord/ Ft Lewis military base. But I guess it depends on your definition of reasonable. It's about 35 minutes with no traffic and about an hour with rush hour traffic. If there is an accident it can be much worse.
Because Tacoma has hockey! (if Olympia does I'd love to hear about it. I haven't been able to find any) Olympia does look like a nice town though. I had a feeling the commute was unreasonable.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:06 AM
 
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This is an area of Ithaca that may be a good fit in terms of a short(er) commute, with close proximity to the city of Ithaca: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nort...haca,_New_York

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfield,_New_York

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_(town),_New_York (western portion)
I'm maintaining a list of potential FS locations. I'm happy to add Hector, NY to the list. I love the idea of being able to visit NYC, Boston, Philly, DC and especially Montreal.

I'm off to research the Ithaca area more. Thanks for the help.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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This is an area of Ithaca that may be a good fit in terms of a short(er) commute, with close proximity to the city of Ithaca: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nort...haca,_New_York

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfield,_New_York

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_(town),_New_York (western portion)
This commute is about 20-30 minutes from the Finger Lakes National Forest. More information: https://www.google.com/maps/place/No...3fff3856788df1


https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Nort...9!2d42.6666339


https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Enfi...9!2d42.6666339


After finding where the Ranger Station is exactly located, there may be another potential option in that area that could fit and that is Geneva, which is about 25 minutes away from the Ranger Station. What may make that appealing besides being a small city that is pretty diverse, has Hobart College, has youth programs that you are looking for and a solid and improving school district is that it is in the Rochester metro area. It also is a little more affordable than Ithaca in terms of home prices. So, you wouldn't be too far from a bigger city as well(45 minutes) and you may have another option in regards to that station. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Gene...42.6666339!3e0
(Double check to make sure of location)

District


Recreation Youth Sports | Geneva


Geneva Generals Hockey Organization powered by GOALLINE.ca


Geneva | Uniquely Urban


Downtown Geneva, New York 14456 - The Difference is Downtown!


Geneva Area Chamber of Commerce | and Business Improvement District


HWS Homepage


Also, do you have any other interests, as that may help to decide where to look as well?

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