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Old 05-04-2016, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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Do you ever think one will be created? Phoenix and Salt Lake City are both growing cities, with Phoenix growing for much longer now, and to get into Utah from Arizona and vice versa is relatively difficult. I think the main reason it is difficult is because of all the parks that exist at the Utah/Arizona border.

I suspect that a new Interstate would overcome the 89 OR the 89-A here in Arizona, probably starting from Flagstaff or extending the I-17 (I always thought it was weird that the I-17 is only in one state but still called an Interstate). Around Page is where the 89 and the 89-A split again. One takes you past the Vermillion Cliffs and near the north side of the Grand Canyon, and they meet up in Kanab. The other goes past Lake Powell. The option there would be to go North and drive right past Bryce Canyon and join with I-70 I'd assume. OR, it could continue to go West past Zion and join up with the I-15.

And no, I don't count the I-15 because it doesn't serve the Arizona population except for one town, and it's barely in Arizona anyway.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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Probably not.

1. The traffic volume between the two cities is probably too low to justify the cost of building and maintaining a high speed interstate that would probably be around 300+ miles long.

2. I-11 is currently being built between Phoenix and Las Vegas. Once complete, travelers could take I-11 to Vegas and then I-15 to Salt Lake City.

3. They could probably build a freeway through the Northern AZ/Southern UT area between or through parks. I-70 was built through Western CO, which was probably more prohibitive in terms of cost and natural barriers. But the benefits of connecting Denver to the West Coast by interstate outweighed the costs. Connecting Phoenix and SLC is too much cost, not enough benefit.

4. There are actually other interstates in just 1 state: I-4, I-12, I-16, I-43, I-45, I-87
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Old 05-04-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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4. There are actually other interstates in just 1 state: I-4, I-12, I-16, I-43, I-45, I-87
I think your missing a couple. Interesting topic though. I've always wondered that myself, and some lacking interstates in a couple of other locations.
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Tempe, AZ
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Probably not.

1. The traffic volume between the two cities is probably too low to justify the cost of building and maintaining a high speed interstate that would probably be around 300+ miles long.

2. I-11 is currently being built between Phoenix and Las Vegas. Once complete, travelers could take I-11 to Vegas and then I-15 to Salt Lake City.

3. They could probably build a freeway through the Northern AZ/Southern UT area between or through parks. I-70 was built through Western CO, which was probably more prohibitive in terms of cost and natural barriers. But the benefits of connecting Denver to the West Coast by interstate outweighed the costs. Connecting Phoenix and SLC is too much cost, not enough benefit.

4. There are actually other interstates in just 1 state: I-4, I-12, I-16, I-43, I-45, I-87
1. Maybe so, but the parks might benefit from potential increased traffic nearby. Could you imagine the money Utah could be pouring in with easier access to Zion and Bryce Canyon? Lake Powell... and Arizona the north side of the Grand Canyon? Arizona also has no easy access north after the I-17 which limits northern travel in general.

2. That's a huge time consumption out of the way. It takes 4 hours driving to Vegas from Phoenix. That's four hours of extra driving that could be unnecessary. It takes roughly 4-5 hours to get to Page, Arizona even on the 89, and that's a lot closer to Utah in almost the same time.

3. You're right that it's possible, the AZ/UT border is flat in a lot of portions and in Utah it goes through valleys rather than tall, steep mountains... I would debate on what would be the best way though...

4. Yes, we also have the I-19 too, that one I can understand more since it goes to the Mexico border. I just find it funny, that's all.
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