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NYC is way different than the rest of New York state geographcially. The city is basically flat (with a few hilly sections in the Bronx and upper Manhattan). And the climate is more temperate than upstate because the temperatures are moderated by proximity to the ocean. In the Adirondacks --which take up a good hunk of NYS -- you are in the interior of the state, with massive snowfalls, lots of (small) mountains, huge pine forests, and lots of lakes. this wasn't NYC geography even before there was a NYC.
It is pretty crazy how populated the coast of NY is when in fact, the coast makes a very miniscule part of the state. It has a far longer shoreline on the Great Lakes. Compare NY with TX, TX has a loooong coast but most of its city's are inland and its identity is more associated with the plains.
Beaumont, TX. Fits in more in Louisiana than Texas. The one thing that makes it super Texan though, is being home to spindletop, as well as its closeness to Houston.
I could never understand how someone could think of hills as a negative. Well, maybe if you have to go up and down 15% hills to get around in your neighborhood, but seeing hills?
Having lived in both, what comes first to mind when I think of Cleveland is just how flat the city proper is. Sure, you have the Heights to the East, but they're not a part of Cleveland proper, being as they are their own municipalities. Cleveland Heights, Shaker Heights, etc. Cincinnati is full of hills throughout, and only begins to flatten out when you get out north past 275. Sure, it isn't as flat as Columbus, but it certainly isn't a city of hills in the way Cincinnati is.
Define the city proper. Because East Cleveland is far from flat. Quit hiding in the city proper and look at the whole metro area.
It is pretty crazy how populated the coast of NY is when in fact, the coast makes a very miniscule part of the state. It has a far longer shoreline on the Great Lakes. Compare NY with TX, TX has a loooong coast but most of its city's are inland and its identity is more associated with the plains.
I say that the dichotomy is even more prevalent in the other Southern states (sans FL and LA); the major metros of states like MS, AL, GA, etc all are inland. While most major TX metros are inland, it at least has a large, prominent metro on the coast (Houston).
I say that the dichotomy is even more prevalent in the other Southern states (sans FL and LA); the major metros of states like MS, AL, GA, etc all are inland. While most major TX metros are inland, it at least has a large, prominent metro on the coast (Houston).
But those three states have rather short coastlines, especially the first two. Mississippi's second largest city/metro Alabama's third largest city/metro, and Georgia's third largest city/metro are on the coasts.
But those three states have rather short coastlines, especially the first two. Mississippi's second largest city/metro Alabama's third largest city/metro, and Georgia's third largest city/metro are on the coasts.
True, true, the epitome of my point would involve places like the Carolinas, which have all their large cities/metros inland, even though they have relatively long coastlines.
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What US, Canadian, Caribbean and Central American cities/metros are quite geographically different from the majority of their state?
When I lived in Seattle I got to know British Columbia pretty well, and it's essentially two worlds; Vancouver/Lower Mainland and the rest of BC. Vancouver is the expensive Pacific Rim metropolis, and the rest of BC feels more quintessentially Canadian. I've encountered people in the more conservative interior mountain regions and on Vancouver Island expressing disdain for Vancouver. I think part of it is Vancouver, for it's medium sized ranking in terms of metro population, is on the global radar, especially in terms of real estate. Real Estate prices in a metro area with a bit of notoriety can also have ripple effects statewide (or provincewide). That creates tension.
That's not true at all. Cleveland isn't flat, at least not the whole city. Much of East Cleveland is rolling hills. Chagrin Falls is VERY hilly. Cleveland lies in the foothills of the Allegheny Mountains. If you've ever driven I-71 between Columbus and Cleveland, you'd realize just how hilly the state can be.
Or drive I-77 from Cleveland south to WV.
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