Most Urban Cities (high crime, house, neighborhood)

[Duderino]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

Please don't shot the messenger , but I am a bearer of bad news on what the most Urban cities In America Really Are.....I don't want to have you crying in your cereal this morning especially all of you LA haters ,Beat LA..
Beat LA....Beat LA, but here's goes.....
1.NYC 27,083 people square mile
2.Jersey City NJ 16,045 sq/mile
3.San Francisco CA 15,834 sq/mile
4.Chicago 12,470 sq/mile
5.Santa Ana CA 12,453 sq/mile
6.Boston 12,327 sq/mile
7.Miami FL 11,554 sq/mile
8.Newark NJ 11,400 sq/mile
9.Long Beach CA 9,149 sq/mile
10.Washington D.C. 9,015 sq/mile
11. Los Angeles 8,205 sq/mile

You missed Philadelphia, which would come in 9th at 10,882.8 people/sq. mile.

[krudmonk]

Most cities are urban at their core. People talk about how arbitrary city limits are when counting population, but the same goes for population density.

[hillside]

i meant structural density in my thread post. sorry for not clarifying, ya'al.

ainulinale,

you are right, cincinnati doesn't have nearly the amount of rowhouses philly or baltimore has. that's why i rated it after those cities. pittsburgh has more contiguous 2 story rowhouses than cincinnati, but cincinnati has many 3-6 story buildings and tenements all over the city. in philly or baltimore, you may see a block of 2 or 3 story rowhouses, all at the same height. in cincinnati, they vary from 2-5.

d.c. has a southern colonial feel that seems to lessen the structural urbanity of the city below baltimore, pittsburgh and cincinnati, imho. i do like new orleans on your list, just not above cincinnati.

[Billiam]

Originally Posted by Howest2008

Please don't shot the messenger , but I am a bearer of bad news on what the most Urban cities In America Really Are.....I don't want to have you crying in your cereal this morning especially all of you LA haters ,Beat LA..
Beat LA....Beat LA, but here's goes.....
1.NYC 27,083 people square mile
2.Jersey City NJ 16,045 sq/mile
3.San Francisco CA 15,834 sq/mile
4.Chicago 12,470 sq/mile
5.Santa Ana CA 12,453 sq/mile
6.Boston 12,327 sq/mile
7.Miami FL 11,554 sq/mile
8.Newark NJ 11,400 sq/mile
9.Long Beach CA 9,149 sq/mile
10.Washington D.C. 9,015 sq/mile
11. Los Angeles 8,205 sq/mile
HONORABLE MENTION
12.Baltimore MD 8,058 sq/mile
13.Oakland CA 7,126 sq/mile
14.Minneapolis 7,067 sq/mile
15.Seattle 6,901 sq/miles
16.Detroit MI 6,850 sq/mile
I think that what you really are trying to get is America's Most Dynamize Urban Cities......Tell me if I'm Right Or Not....Urban Density Thrown Me For A Loop.....Some of the Least Urban Cities Oklahoma City 871 sq/mile El Paso TX
337 people sq/mile and last but not least (Anchorago AK) 187 people per square mile.

Haha you just wanted to have La in the top so you cut the line off at 11! haha. i'm pretty sure La would be an honorable mention, not in the top
if you wanted it to work, you should have probly cut it off at 15

[Eastern Roamer]

Traveler87, hillside, those are great pictures of Cincinnati. I don't mind being proved wrong, it means I learned something!

[john_starks]

Santa Ana eh? lol

[JCL01]

Originally Posted by Eastern Roamer

Cincinnati does not even belong on that list. It's almost all suburbia.

Re: the photos of Cincinnati

Some of those photos are of downtown, which I understand to be excluded from your criteria. Also, in my mind Over-the-Rhine (rest of the photos) is more or less part of downtown. The areas are contiguous. Any separation of the areas is pretty much mental, based on socioeconomic factors.

In any case, only a very, very small portion of the region's population lives in housing like that in the photos. Excluding Mt. Adams (which is also small), almost all other primarily residential areas in the city have a suburban feel (e.g. Hyde Park, Mt. Lookout, Montgomery/Kenwood areas).

[ainulinale]

Originally Posted by hillside

d.c. has a southern colonial feel that seems to lessen the structural urbanity of the city below baltimore, pittsburgh and cincinnati, imho. i do like new orleans on your list, just not above cincinnati.

You may be right about DC, but since DC has so many rows, and nearly everything is connected, I feel it is more urban than Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, etc.

[Billiam]

^ But everything is connected in Bmore too

[ainulinale]

Originally Posted by Billiam

^ But everything is connected in Bmore too

Yeah, Baltimore has tons of rows...it definitely is either first or second in the country in terms of rows (with Philly probably being the capital). However, it just seemed like everything else in DC was connected too...but it is a judgment call.