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View Poll Results: Which Midwestern Rust Belt city has made the strongest recovery?
Detroit 5 8.77%
Cleveland 10 17.54%
St. Louis 11 19.30%
Milwaukee 11 19.30%
Cincinnati 20 35.09%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-09-2016, 10:39 AM
 
Location: SE PA via North jerz
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1. Milwaukee (never really fell to begin with, also proximity to high crime big city chicago may be a huge positive for the city, causing in-migration from the chi)
2. Cincinnati/St. Louis (its a tie)
3. Cleveland (this is one of my favorite midwest cities, hopefully they continue to make a comeback)
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4. Detroit (distant last, i honestly think this city is turning into a giant modern ghost town)
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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4. Detroit (distant last, i honestly think this city is turning into a giant modern ghost town)
You should probably familiarize yourself with what's actually going on versus perpetuating 15-20 year old stereotypes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/03/fa...very.html?_r=0
Here's The Vibrant Detroit Neighborhood A New York Times Columnist Considers An 'Urban Wasteland'
Five years in, and Dan Gilbert's just beginning
Forbes Welcome
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Old 07-10-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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Those stereotypes really go back 45-50 years. It's probably going to take at least another 20 of positive momentum, before the people who use media driven stereotypes to form opinions over personal experience stop espousing robotic arguments.
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Old 07-10-2016, 06:59 PM
 
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Those stereotypes really go back 45-50 years. It's probably going to take at least another 20 of positive momentum, before the people who use media driven stereotypes to form opinions over personal experience stop espousing robotic arguments.
Come take a bike ride along Detoit's riverfront from two years ago.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x98lcrjD2o0
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Cbus
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Downtown Detroit was quite impressive even in the dead of winter.
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Old 07-11-2016, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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I'm talking cities like Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Milwaukee and St. Louis. Cast your vote and explain why. Which cities have gained population from the lows they hit, which ones are gaining population today vs. losing population, etc...
To answer your opening question regarding population changes,
this chart summarizes gainers and losers from the US 2010 census to US 2015 estimate:
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* CINCINNATI __+____+____+
* CLEVELAND __(-)___(-)___(-)
* DETROIT ____(-)____+____+
* MILWAUKEE __+____+____+
* ST. LOUIS ___(-)____+____+
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Old 07-11-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati (Norwood)
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Probably Cincinnati, but it wasn't quite as industrial as the others so deindustrialization didn't affect it as much.
Even though Cincinnati wasn't decimated to the extent that Detroit and Pittsburgh were, in their auto and steel industries, its own loses were painful enough.

Not only did the city lose a huge machine tool industry, three auto plants (one employing over 8,000) and several chemical factories, it also said goodbye to P&G's extensive Ivorydale production lines - of which (years later) this article refers back to:

Ivorydale: Model for more P&G closings?
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Old 07-12-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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1. Milwaukee (never really fell to begin with, also proximity to high crime big city chicago may be a huge positive for the city, causing in-migration from the chi)
2. Cincinnati/St. Louis (its a tie)
3. Cleveland (this is one of my favorite midwest cities, hopefully they continue to make a comeback)
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4. Detroit (distant last, i honestly think this city is turning into a giant modern ghost town)
When was the last time you spent time there?

I had my preconceived ideas when I started dating someone who was originally from there 6 years ago, but now (we're married) I go a few times a year and I'm very impressed with Detroit from what I was expecting. It's certainly changing very quickly.

Every time we go back to visit his family in the burbs of Detroit I always try to get us into the city to hang downtown. Greektown, catch a baseball game, go to the casino, hit up the huge eastern market - which I absolutely love.
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Detroit
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No other city on this list fell as hard as Detroit last decade. The rest of the country was in a recession while Detroit was in a depression. The fact that the area is doing pretty well in most categories is amazing. Almost scary.
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Old 07-13-2016, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Cinncinatti has the lowest unemployment rates
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