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Old 07-16-2016, 08:01 AM
 
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Post #25 was specifically in response to post #24 and not a pot shot.

My original post # 16 was intended to be complementary of Chattanooga.

I wonder if someone has moved to Chatt wearing rose colored glasses (handed out freely by the CoC). I am referring to a strange rep message I got.

I'm generally pretty complimentary of Chatt in general, they have achieved a lot, especially if you like Urbansim. But wow their hype department is over the top.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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What about WV, places like Wheeling and all the coal towns in WV and SW VA
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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Sorry, but I just don't agree with your assessment. The term Rust Belt implies overall economic decline and population decline. By any metric you care to name, Birmingham is economically far better off than it was in the early 80s, something that the typical Rust Belt examples such as Youngstown, Detroit, Flint, or Buffalo can't say. And the metro population has grown by roughly a third since the area hit its nadir in the early 1980s.
Interestingly, Birmingham city population continued to decline thru the 2000s, and between 2000 and 2010 the population decline of 12.6% was greater than that of St. Louis, Pittsburgh, or Buffalo. It wasn't until the last 3 years or so that the population is appearing to stabilize, based upon census estimates. Only Detroit and Cleveland were worse as a percentage than Birmingham among the large Rust Belt cities. Since 1980, Birmingham population decline has been roughly comparable to Pittsburgh and Buffalo, at just over 25%.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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Interestingly, Birmingham city population continued to decline thru the 2000s, and between 2000 and 2010 the population decline of 12.6% was greater than that of St. Louis, Pittsburgh, or Buffalo. It wasn't until the last 3 years or so that the population is appearing to stabilize, based upon census estimates. Only Detroit and Cleveland were worse as a percentage than Birmingham among the large Rust Belt cities. Since 1980, Birmingham population decline has been roughly comparable to Pittsburgh and Buffalo, at just over 25%.
I was referring to metro population, not city population, which is a much more accurate depiction of a region's economic vitality. The problem with looking at core city populations is that it doesn't take into account the X factor that afflicted a lot of cities, which was the white flight of the 60s, 70s,and 80s. This was a factor that little to do with deindustrialization, the entire point of this thread. Yet, Birmingham's core population has actually had a tiny uptick of late, attributable to the infill of people moving back into the city.

If we look at Buffalo, the metro population there has declined by roughly 16% since 1970. In Pittsburgh, the metro population decline during that same period has been roughly the same. Meanwhile, during the same time period, Birmingham's metro area has increased by 36%.

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Old 07-16-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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Baltimore is the only city below the mason-dixon line that's rust belt.
Baltimore is also NOT the South.
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:02 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Birmingham, Memphis, and OKC.
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:09 AM
 
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Birmingham, Memphis, and OKC.
How is OKC "Rust Belt"?
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:19 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Birmingham, Memphis, and OKC.


OKC? I don't see it as being all that much in the "south" or being "rust belt" in the usual sense. Cows don't rust much. Being the state capital helps the economy somewhat.
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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Birmingham, Memphis, and OKC.
Memphis and OKC aren't Rust Belt at all.
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Old 07-16-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Was there ever much heavy manufacturing in Memphis?
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