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Old 05-23-2019, 06:16 AM
 
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I don’t buy it. I think it is more that Minnesotans are historically egalitarian and view government as necessary for building a strong public apparatus with good safety nets and well funded programs.

While that culture more be more prominent in the Cities, I think it sort of spreads throughout the state.

Lastly, liberals also exist in small pockets outside the Cities, like the Iron Range and Duluth.
I think that was true at one time - a result of being heavily Scandinavian - but I think in recent years that influence has lessened and it's more of a result of being a state where 65% of the population is pretty liberal and 45% is pretty conservative, and this being the end result. You get enough progress to stay ahead of the curve and not gut your local government, but it's not so far out there that you get the problems of being too far left. I think Minnesota is maintaining a good balance, but I don't know that the historical reasons for it being that way are still the driving factor.

There was a culture in the rural upper Midwest that you describe, but I see it being eroded in the era of Trumpism. Hope I'm wrong. The historic political moderation of this part of the world is something I've always appreciated about it.
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Old 05-23-2019, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon (in Transition)
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I think that was true at one time - a result of being heavily Scandinavian - but I think in recent years that influence has lessened and it's more of a result of being a state where 65% of the population is pretty liberal and 45% is pretty conservative, and this being the end result. You get enough progress to stay ahead of the curve and not gut your local government, but it's not so far out there that you get the problems of being too far left. I think Minnesota is maintaining a good balance, but I don't know that the historical reasons for it being that way are still the driving factor.

There was a culture in the rural upper Midwest that you describe, but I see it being eroded in the era of Trumpism. Hope I'm wrong. The historic political moderation of this part of the world is something I've always appreciated about it.
65% + 45% = 110%

I do agree Minnesotan politics are surface left, but truly more moderate. I think it is really a strong safety net with moderate social policies.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:04 PM
 
Location: North Dakota
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What kinds of things exist or are featured in other states or regions of the country that you wish you had in the area where you currently live?

For me, I would have to say that living in New England, I am jealous of the South and Midwest for having lots of high speed U.S. divided highways where you can cruise for miles and miles at 65 mph. We don't really have any of that here in New England. Everything here is so compact, cramped, slow, curvy and full of intersections, traffic lights, etc.
I'd love to have our own version of the Black Hills.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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LA:

The beaches, the glamor, the glitz, the palm trees.
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Old 05-24-2019, 06:23 AM
 
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65% + 45% = 110%

I do agree Minnesotan politics are surface left, but truly more moderate. I think it is really a strong safety net with moderate social policies.
This is what happens when public schools losing funding!
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Rochester NY
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I'm jealous of states/regions with nice roads. Roads in the Northeast are trashed because of the snow/ice/salt.
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:42 AM
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Areas where they don't talk about religion in every other sentence.
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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This is what happens when public schools losing funding!
He said it.
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Old 05-24-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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What kinds of things exist or are featured in other states or regions of the country that you wish you had in the area where you currently live?

For me, I would have to say that living in New England, I am jealous of the South and Midwest for having lots of high speed U.S. divided highways where you can cruise for miles and miles at 65 mph. We don't really have any of that here in New England. Everything here is so compact, cramped, slow, curvy and full of intersections, traffic lights, etc.
I am jealous of New Mexico's natural wonders such as Carlsbad Caverns and the White Sands,snow-capped mountains in various states,Southern California's coastal climate,Arizona's natural wonders such as the Grand Canyon and the climate in Phoenix and Yuma,the Waffle Houses and Krispy Kremes that the South has, the volcanoes of other states such as California,Oregon,Washington State, and Hawaii,Arizona, and New Mexico.I am also jealous of the German culture in other parts of the country and the alien tourism in Roswell,New Mexico..

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Old 05-25-2019, 09:24 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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Areas where they don't talk about religion in every other sentence.
I like regions where people don't talk about politics every other sentence. Where do you live where it's religion?
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