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Old 07-22-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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It would be more of a hassle to change time zone boundaries than it is worth. Though I do think DST is dumb and I think that can go.
STANDARD time should go.
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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So Atlanta Should be in Central time? I think you just have an OCD issue with lines not looking perfect I have the same issue with other things. The eastern seaboard is not a straight line. The longitude of some cities on the eastern Seaboard.


Portland ME 70.27
New York 75.61
Jacksonville 81.65


Jacksonville is almost directionally due south of Cleveland which is at 81.67 (which you originally argued should be central)


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Atlanta sits at 84.39 long while Detroit is 83.07 that's a difference of 1.32 degrees. In other words Detroit is roughly 91 miles east of Atlanta. Cincinatti is even further west of Atlanta at 84.51.


I-65 is more or less the western boundary for the eastern time zone. Indianpolis (eastern)86.15, Louisville (eastern) 85.76, Nashville (central) 86.78, Birmingham (central) 86.80. If you draw a line almost due north from Louisville you hit Grand Rapids (eastern) 85.67 which is further east than all of them.


Using your benchmark of 82.5 as the boundary, Downtown Tampa (82.45) would be eastern, but it's Gulf beach suburb of Clearwater (82.78) would be central. As it stands Tampa is only 43 miles east of Detroit, it is 54 miles WEST of Cleveland.


Another fact to annoy the OCD in us, the entire Canadian province of Ontario is on the same time as the Eastern Time zone. This means at the far western borders of Ontario 95.00 you are 120 miles WEST of Minneapolis, but on Eastern time
No, I already said that GA would stay in Easterm Time.

And, Ontario is not entirely in Eastern Time, the western part of Ontario IS in Central Time
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Louisville
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No, I already said that GA would stay in Easterm Time.

And, Ontario is not entirely in Eastern Time, the western part of Ontario IS in Central Time
So why put GA on Eastern time but not MI? The western edge of Georgia is due south of Grand Rapids.
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Old 07-22-2016, 01:57 PM
 
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So why put GA on Eastern time but not MI? The western edge of Georgia is due south of Grand Rapids.
I explained that already, they are on different sides of the Appalachians, and I also keep GA in Eastern Time due to economic ties between Atlanta with NC and FL
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Old 07-22-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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I explained that already, they are on different sides of the Appalachians, and I also keep GA in Eastern Time due to economic ties between Atlanta with NC and FL
Right but you also said central time should span from 82.5 to 97.5, which for all intents and purposes puts Tampa in Central time. So 82.5 as long as they aren't west of the Appalachians? Why are the Applachians your hard stop? The sun doesn't set later for Detroit and Cleveland because they sit opposite Atlanta on an aging mountain range, they are both east of it.


Detroit may have more economic ties with Asian cities than it does with Chicago, should that also be considered?
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Old 07-22-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Right but you also said central time should span from 82.5 to 97.5, which for all intents and purposes puts Tampa in Central time. So 82.5 as long as they aren't west of the Appalachians? Why are the Applachians your hard stop? The sun doesn't set later for Detroit and Cleveland because they sit opposite Atlanta on an aging mountain range, they are both east of it.


Detroit may have more economic ties with Asian cities than it does with Chicago, should that also be considered?
I chose the Appalachians, from Ohio southward, because they seperate the east from the midwest/gulf regions, and more or less are around 82.5 give or take
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Old 07-22-2016, 03:14 PM
 
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In the 1960's, when I was a child, Western Utah was on Pacific Time. The time zone split at SLC, west of town along the Great Salt Lake to the Nevada border.

The stations back them used to announce the time as, "9:00pm Pacific, 10:00pm Mountain. Around 1968 they placed the entire state in the Mountain Time Zone.
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Old 07-22-2016, 03:49 PM
 
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In the 1960's, when I was a child, Western Utah was on Pacific Time. The time zone split at SLC, west of town along the Great Salt Lake to the Nevada border.

The stations back them used to announce the time as, "9:00pm Pacific, 10:00pm Mountain. Around 1968 they placed the entire state in the Mountain Time Zone.
Exactly, if you go back to my first post, I said Utah west of the Wasatch Mts should switch to Pacific
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Old 07-22-2016, 03:54 PM
 
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Exactly, if you go back to my first post, I said Utah west of the Wasatch Mts should switch to Pacific
I don't see why. Apparently the reason it was changed to all-Mountain (the best time zone IMO, LOL) was to unify the state.
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Old 07-22-2016, 04:01 PM
 
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I don't see why. Apparently the reason it was changed to all-Mountain (the best time zone IMO, LOL) was to unify the state.
That's the same arguement as to why the whole country of China is in Beijing Time, despite the country spanning 4 time zones, if you lived in Tibet, that is like a 12pm sunrise in December or sunset after midnight in June

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