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View Poll Results: Which lake has the Best Cities
Ontario 18 29.51%
Erie 6 9.84%
Michigan 37 60.66%
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Old 07-24-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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Which Great Lake has the best cities on its shores?
I am omitting Superior and Huron because there is no major population centers on those lakes.
Lake Ontario has
Toronto
Hamilton
Rochester
Lake Erie has
Buffalo
Cleveland
Detroit (Technically not, but the Detroit River drops like 2 feet, and is on the Erie side of St Clair so its basically on the lake)
Lake Michigan has
Chicago
Milwaukee
you can include smaller towns like Watertown, NY, Holland, MI, or Toldeo as well.
Which set of cities has the best
Food:
nightlife:
Music scene:
Lakefronts:
Urbanity:
Connectivity between cities:
edit: woops should be in City v City
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Rochester NY
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Just to start off, I am very much a great lakes person. It is my favorite region of the country by far. Something about the history, the proud and resilient people, and the beauty of the area has always drawn me to this area. Give me snow and steel over palm trees and sunshine any day. That being said, I voted for Lake Ontario because I have been both a resident of Rochester, NY (current) and Watertown, NY and really have enjoyed both areas. While I love the Rochester area I feel like they are really lacking as far as promoting Rochester as a lakeside city. What made me vote for Lake Ontario is not Watertown itself but the areas and small towns to the west of Watertown, hard to match the beauty of that area. However, as far as food, nightlife, music, entertainment, etc neither city can compare to any of the other cities you mentioned. I can't really comment on Toronto because I've never been there but I've been told its one of the best food and entertainment cities in the world.

I'm sure many will argue that Chicago is superior in every way to Toronto but I guess that is subjective. As for Lake Erie. I like both Buffalo and Cleveland more then Chicago and Toronto, not a real big city person, but I don't think either can really compare to what Toronto or Chicago has to offer. Regardless, all three have different things to offer, I guess it more or less depends on which you prefer.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I'm sure many will argue that Chicago is superior in every way to Toronto but I guess that is subjective. As for Lake Erie. I like both Buffalo and Cleveland more then Chicago and Toronto, not a real big city person, but I don't think either can really compare to what Toronto or Chicago has to offer. Regardless, all three have different things to offer, I guess it more or less depends on which you prefer.
Of course people on this forum will argue that Chicago is better than Toronto in every way, including many who have never been to Toronto, or who have never left Toronto's version of the Loop. This board is dominated by Americans, and most who have visited Toronto and have negative or "meh" opinions of it seem to have never ventured outside of the downtown, so of course it will seem like another large American city. If posters judged Chicago solely on the Loop, they would get laughed off the board, but people do it to Toronto all the time...just a boring, sterile, Anglo-American city May as well go to Montreal, where there is French culture (so unique!) or Vancouver, where there are mountains. I didn't know Francophone culture or mountains automatically made a city interesting, but on this forum, they seem to. At least when Toronto is concerned.

BTW, I voted for Lake Ontario because it has: Toronto (and all it's surrounding lake cities like Mississauga, Oakville, Burlington), Hamilton, Kingston, Prince Edward County, the Thousand Islands, Niagara-on-the-Lake, Niagara Falls, Buffalo, Rochester, and all the nice little towns on the eastern (American) side of the lake, like Watertown.
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Old 07-24-2016, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Just to start off, I am very much a great lakes person. It is my favorite region of the country by far. Something about the history, the proud and resilient people, and the beauty of the area has always drawn me to this area. Give me snow and steel over palm trees and sunshine any day. That being said, I voted for Lake Ontario because I have been both a resident of Rochester, NY (current) and Watertown, NY and really have enjoyed both areas. While I love the Rochester area I feel like they are really lacking as far as promoting Rochester as a lakeside city. What made me vote for Lake Ontario is not Watertown itself but the areas and small towns to the west of Watertown, hard to match the beauty of that area. However, as far as food, nightlife, music, entertainment, etc neither city can compare to any of the other cities you mentioned. I can't really comment on Toronto because I've never been there but I've been told its one of the best food and entertainment cities in the world.

I'm sure many will argue that Chicago is superior in every way to Toronto but I guess that is subjective. As for Lake Erie. I like both Buffalo and Cleveland more then Chicago and Toronto, not a real big city person, but I don't think either can really compare to what Toronto or Chicago has to offer. Regardless, all three have different things to offer, I guess it more or less depends on which you prefer.
Never been, but I've always had an interest in the region. Beach without salt? Yes please.
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Old 07-24-2016, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Lake Michigan has the best cities on its shores, but Lake Superior is the best Great Lake.
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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Which Lake do you think is the cleanest?

If anything I say Duluth, Buffalo, and Erie. Of great debate off the 6th Great Lake Burlington VT.
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Old 07-24-2016, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Rochester NY
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Which Lake do you think is the cleanest?

If anything I say Duluth, Buffalo, and Erie. Of great debate off the 6th Great Lake Burlington VT.
I'd say Superior is by far the cleanest. Of the three listed though, maybe the northern part of Michigan or the eastern part of Ontario would be my guess.
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Old 07-24-2016, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Lake Ontario has many pristine areas with beautiful white sand beaches, and water as warm as the Caribbean at this time of year. Sandbanks Provincial Park is one of my favourites. The area around Sandy Pond on the American side also has great sand beaches and warm, clean water.

Lake Huron and Georgian Bay also have some amazing beaches.
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Old 07-24-2016, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Lake Michigan has the best cities on its shores, but Lake Superior is the best Great Lake.
Besides Chicago and Milwaukee, which cities or even noteworthy towns does Lake Michigan have on its shores?

Lake Ontario has 9 cities of 100,000+ people that I can think of (Golden Horseshoe Cities: Toronto: 2.8 million; Mississauga: 700,000; Oakville: 180,000; Burlington: 180,000; Hamilton: 500,000; St. Catherine's: 130,000; Oshawa: 140,000 ~ that's 7 cities with a total population of 4.6+ million people all in the Golden Horseshoe, with coastlines on Lake Ontario, with the two furthest being a 90-minute drive from each other). There is also Kingston with a population 128,000, that is 3 hours north of Toronto. On the American side, I guess I can't technically include Buffalo, because even though it has suburbs on Lake Ontario, the city is mostly oriented to Lake Erie. But there is Rochester, NY, with a population of 1 million. That is almost 6 million people in 9 cities, in two countries that have coastlines on Lake Ontario. There are dozens of cities with populations of <100,000 on both sides of the border on Lake Ontario.

In addition to the cities, Lake Ontario has numerous world-famous locations like Niagara Falls, Niagara-on-the-Lake, the Thousand Islands, and Prince Edward County (along with Niagara, PEC has become famous for its wines, especially in the UK).

Lake Michigan is beautiful, Chicago is a great city, Milwaukee is pretty decent, and there are great beaches and towns along the lake, but I don't know if Lake Michigan can claim the best cities of all the Great Lakes. But since this is an American-centric forum, I don't doubt many will disagree with me even if they've never visited either lake or the cities on them.

Yup...just as I thought, the poll already favours Lake Michigan, even with all cities and world-famous destinations I named on Lake Ontario. Sometimes this forum is just silly in its biases
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Old 07-24-2016, 03:42 PM
 
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Lake Ontario has many pristine areas with beautiful white sand beaches, and water as warm as the Caribbean at this time of year. Sandbanks Provincial Park is one of my favourites. The area around Sandy Pond on the American side also has great sand beaches and warm, clean water.

Lake Huron and Georgian Bay also have some amazing beaches.
Maybe on the shallower Southeast part of the lake, the the area around Toronto hardly cracks 60 because of persistent W/WNW winds blow the warm surface waters away to Toronto and the deep colder waters upwell.
As a result, the American Side is much warmer, sometimes close to 20 degrees different.
Erie is by far the warmest lake, but the cities near it seem to have the least "beachy" waterfront.
I can't blame them, until the late 80s/90s I don't think anyone would have wanted to swim anywhere near the mouth of the Cuyahoga River.
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