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Old 07-27-2016, 12:23 PM
 
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Upstate New York certainly stands as a possibility. Buffalo loses proximity to NYC and from our personal experiences there at least, I don't feel it really gains us much (better grocery stores). Overall I think it would be a loss compared to Pittsburgh for sure. Rochester I don't have much experience with outside of stopping there for dinner once while passing through. I'll give it a look.

Wilmington,DE is an interesting suggestion. DE is one of the few states we've never spent any real time in. I'd really like to stay with a larger city, but can sacrifice that if it's easy enough to visit NYC. Not sure just looking at a map that Wilmington fits that - but I'll explore it. I like what I see for housing there. Neat style they've got.
If you want the city of Rochester, I'd look in this area: Southeast Quadrant - Rochester Wiki


If you were to consider Syracuse, I'd say that these areas are worth a look: City of Syracuse -> TNT Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today
Eastwood Neighborhood Association
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0684...8i6656!6m1!1e1


City of Syracuse -> TNT Tomorrow's Neighborhoods Today
Westcott Neighborhood Association - Westcott Community
UNPA | University Neighborhood Preservation Association
seuna - Home
Home Crouse-Marshall
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0414...8i6656!6m1!1e1

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Old 07-27-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Downtown Phoenix, AZ
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Oh yeah, definitely. Lots of great places you can still get a house for $125k. I'm honestly unsure why anyone lives in Phoenix, we personally hate it there - it's hot, overpriced (in our opinions) and sprawled out everywhere. Lots of resources there and good economy though. But you can get that in a suburb of Philly though with much better weather (we think)
Seems some people have different definitions of better weather. To me, Phoenix has the 2nd best climate in the whole country, behind SoCal. I need lots of sunshine, palm trees and zero snow or humidity
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Old 07-27-2016, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Just curious, but what about schools, OP?

Also, are you looking just within the city proper or would you consider walkable suburbs too?
Schools just need to be decent. If we were to go inner-city chicago for instance, we'd probably homeschool (I'm guessing. I don't honestly have any idea which cities have awful or great schools. Our oldest is 3 and we've put off thinking too much about it until a few days ago when we actually secured a pre-approval lol) Ideally if we went somewhere with mediocre schools, we'd probably move again in 10 years just before high-school and hopefully have the resources at that time to opt for nicer schools. Prior to high school we can fill in the blanks pretty comfortably where school has been lacking.

We love the idea of city-proper, but we're not committed to it and would certainly consider walkable suburbs. Particularly if the area offers a lot otherwise. We'd even consider non-walkable suburbs if the area was ideal other than that - it's just that what we're looking for tends to go hand-in-hand with being walkable in our experience, so rather than ambiguously say "somewhere we'd really love" it's easier to just say "walkable" because, while still subjective, it's a heck of a lot more practical of a filter and will likely produce similar results even if there's a small chance we might miss somewhere obscure.
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Seems some people have different definitions of better weather. To me, Phoenix has the 2nd best climate in the whole country, behind SoCal. I need lots of sunshine, palm trees and zero snow or humidity
People definitely have different definitions! We moved from NorCal (Redding - super hot!) to Pittsburgh, slightly worried about both snow and humidity. I think the weather in Pittsburgh is absolutely impossible to beat anywhere near our budget though. Turns out we love the winter - it makes the other seasons so much more appreciated and the city is just alive when it's not frozen. We'd like for there to be more things to do during winter - indoor playgrounds and such (which for some reason are incredibly popular and really nice in SoCal despite that there's nowhere in the country that needs them less.) And summer here really doesn't get unbearable which is awesome.

Now, next week we're gonna take a couple days and venture down to the south - trying to hit it right about at the most miserable time of year we can - just to see if we can live with it. I feel like if we can that it opens up some options to us (like possibly fulfilling my wife's desire to be near the ocean), or at least doesn't restrict any based only on weather. We'll see how that goes
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I miss living in WNY. I have been traveling there lately. Lots of great stuff going on. I would give smaller cities and rural areas in NY a look.
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Old 07-27-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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Schools just need to be decent. If we were to go inner-city chicago for instance, we'd probably homeschool (I'm guessing. I don't honestly have any idea which cities have awful or great schools. Our oldest is 3 and we've put off thinking too much about it until a few days ago when we actually secured a pre-approval lol) Ideally if we went somewhere with mediocre schools, we'd probably move again in 10 years just before high-school and hopefully have the resources at that time to opt for nicer schools. Prior to high school we can fill in the blanks pretty comfortably where school has been lacking.

We love the idea of city-proper, but we're not committed to it and would certainly consider walkable suburbs. Particularly if the area offers a lot otherwise. We'd even consider non-walkable suburbs if the area was ideal other than that - it's just that what we're looking for tends to go hand-in-hand with being walkable in our experience, so rather than ambiguously say "somewhere we'd really love" it's easier to just say "walkable" because, while still subjective, it's a heck of a lot more practical of a filter and will likely produce similar results even if there's a small chance we might miss somewhere obscure.
Would you be open to charter or private schools as well?


I think you could do both a city neighborhood or a suburban area with some degree of walkability(villages or otherwise) in the Upstate NY areas. They may not be as urban as Pittsburgh's Garfield neighborhood or have as extensive public transportation, but they could still serve their purpose, given that there is some flexibility.


Living in an area with a Wegmans nearby would be nice and could be done as well.

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Old 07-27-2016, 02:31 PM
 
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With the exception of proximity to NYC obviously, Lakewood OH (an adjoining suburb of Cleveland) nails your criteria.

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Old 07-27-2016, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Miami-Jax
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Wilmington,DE is an interesting suggestion. DE is one of the few states we've never spent any real time in. I'd really like to stay with a larger city, but can sacrifice that if it's easy enough to visit NYC. Not sure just looking at a map that Wilmington fits that - but I'll explore it. I like what I see for housing there. Neat style they've got.
Wilmington has some really nice areas (though I assume not under 125k). Re: larger city, Wilmington is practically part of Philly so you don't have to worry about lacking big city amenities. I think downtown to downtown it's 20 minutes by train.
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I'm well aware that St. Louis is nowhere near NYC, but I recently bought a house here (for under 100k). 100k - 150k is reasonable for a decent or nice city neighborhood. There's lots of historic architecture and housing stock here. Everything is brick (if you're into that)

In the city, I would look into Tower Grove East, Tower Grove South, Benton Park, South Hampton, Clifton Heights and possibly Dogtown. All of these neighborhoods are near parks and are popular with young families.

In the burbs, Maplewood is pretty safe and close to everything. You may find something in Brentwood for that price range too.

I spent 5 minutes searching and found several examples of what $125,000 can buy in St. Louis:

South Hampton


Tower Grove East
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Lubec, ME
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Parks of upstate NY are fairly cheap from what I've seen though I cannot comment on the neighborhoods as I'm unfamiliar with that area of the state.
I've lived in 5 places in upstate NY. Some good, mostly bad.
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