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Old 08-04-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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Well, my favorite city in Texas is Galveston, so that might tell you what I think of Florida...But if Texas had an answer for Miami, I'd most likely never consider leaving the state.
Would that be Brownsville/South Padre (in the advent of a population explosion), or Houston/Baytown/Galveston (in the advent of advanced technology to crystallize the water).
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Old 08-04-2016, 07:27 PM
 
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TX has a lot of merits going for it, but I personally prefer FL. I love being on the east, FL's beaches are wonderful, tons of recreational assets.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:22 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Would that be Brownsville/South Padre (in the advent of a population explosion), or Houston/Baytown/Galveston (in the advent of advanced technology to crystallize the water).
Neither. Houston can't be anything except Houston and, even if Brownsville were to explode in population it would still be too dry for me.
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Would that be Brownsville/South Padre (in the advent of a population explosion), or Houston/Baytown/Galveston (in the advent of advanced technology to crystallize the water).
no
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Neither. Houston can't be anything except Houston and, even if Brownsville were to explode in population it would still be too dry for me.
I'll say this. If Houston was across the Bay from Galveston Island, I feel that this area would easily be Texas most impressive and dynamic metro. Galveston Island would be Miami Beach to the city across the bay. Perhaps imagine Downtown Houston where Texas city is at now. The weather would be more tolerable. More breezes off the sea and the temp rarely gets to 100. In fact, although looking at Accuweather which I don't hold as high as NWS, the highest temp so far in Texas city is 92. Pretty much like Miami.

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Old 08-04-2016, 09:32 PM
 
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Neither. Houston can't be anything except Houston and, even if Brownsville were to explode in population it would still be too dry for me.
While annual precipitation in Brownsville is very low, humidity is very high, and all that moisture in the air helps to counteract evapotranspiration. Thus, the landscape won't really look too dry (at least, not as much as inland areas in Texas). Also, temps are very moderate; it is rare to see 100F, even with such dryness.

With that said, Corpus Christi has its downtown right on the bay, looking into the Gulf, and it is a wetter city than Brownsville (but much less wet than Houston). What if that were to explode in population?

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I'll say this. If Houston was across the Bay from Galveston Island, I feel that this area would easily be Texas most impressive and dynamic metro. Galveston Island would be Miami Beach to the city across the bay. Perhaps imagine Downtown Houston where Texas city is at now. The weather would be more tolerable. More breezes off the sea and the temp rarely gets to 100. In fact, although looking at Accuweather which I don't hold as high as NWS, the highest temp so far in Texas city is 92. Pretty much like Miami.
A more coastal location would cool off the climate. The Texas Coast is actually quite moderate in temperature, despite the state's reputation for temp extremes. The city would be more dynamic. In fact, this might have been the original intention of the settlers; the Galveston area was poised to be large and bustling, but the 1900 Hurricane changed that.

Dynamic interaction with the coast can still be had, though. Places like Kemah, Texas City, La Porte, Baytown, Seabrook, etc, can grow to accommodate a tourist population, especially once Galveston Bay is returned to more pristine levels via clean up from industry (more a problem for Baytown and Texas City, less so for Kemah and Seabrook). Those Galveston Bay areas can then provide dynamic interaction with Galveston .... or Galveston can expand in territory from the island to include those Galveston Bay areas; either one works. Houston itself will need rail that connects to those locations (there were commuter rail lines from the city to Galveston Island in the past, but not anymore). In the end, you get a relationship with the coast that is similar to LA's relationship with the Pacific (in logistic terms).
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:15 PM
 
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Neither Brownsville or Corpus are as lush as Miami is.
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Old 08-04-2016, 10:26 PM
 
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Neither Brownsville or Corpus are as lush as Miami is.
That has more to do with lack of prosperity in those cities than with the climate. Those cities (especially Brownsville) are quite poor, and, thus, can't afford fancy landscaping plants like places in Florida can.

Although both cities don't have the rainfall that Miami does, they do have the humidity/low-level moisture, which minimizes evapotranspiration stress on plants. As a result, you will see live oaks like this near Corpus (Goose Island):


And, desalination of the Gulf can provide both cities all the water they need.
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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I'll say this. If Houston was across the Bay from Galveston Island, I feel that this area would easily be Texas most impressive and dynamic metro. Galveston Island would be Miami Beach to the city across the bay. Perhaps imagine Downtown Houston where Texas city is at now. The weather would be more tolerable. More breezes off the sea and the temp rarely gets to 100. In fact, although looking at Accuweather which I don't hold as high as NWS, the highest temp so far in Texas city is 92. Pretty much like Miami.
Yes it would, but since the Texas coast as a whole is far more industrial in nature than anywhere in Florida, I would think it would be more like Tampa (which is a busy port city and historically had way more industry due to nearby phosphate mining) than Miami. Just an observation
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Yes it would, but since the Texas coast as a whole is far more industrial in nature than anywhere in Florida, I would think it would be more like Tampa (which is a busy port city and historically had way more industry due to nearby phosphate mining) than Miami. Just an observation
Well yeah true. It would be more Tampa than Miami. I was just looking at it from a weather perspective but even then, Miami is tropical and Houston even where Texas City is now is still subtropical. I think if Houston was there, you would have seen a more dense city IMO.
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