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Old 08-05-2016, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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I do not want a debate here. Only facts. Please take the 2014 census estimates for your core city, and the county that it is in. Then divide it by the total MSA population. I am interested to see how many "core counties" still make up over half their MSA. Please keep this thread to MSAs over 1 million, or the top 50 or so cities.

I will start with my current location:


Louisville (Jefferson County) 760,026
Louisville MSA 1,269,702

760,026/1,269,702= 59.9%

I would like to then compile a list. I think this largely shows how decentralized a metro area is. For metros over 3 million, I think it shows they are more multimodal....ie, different centers of population. Dallas and Ft Worth are probably the easiest example.

The comparison breaks down out West

Lest do Phoenix.

Maricopa County is 9224 massive sq miles. But with 4.16 million in its core county, that is alot. with 4.57 in the metro, we get 91%.
Doesn't this depend on where in the county the core city is located though?

For example, this metric was done for Detroit, which is located in the northeastern corner of Wayne County, and the city limits border Oakland and Macomb counties. So wouldn't you expect some of the metro population to be in those counties as well?
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:10 AM
 
Location: DMV Area
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For comparison sake 10.2 million people in 5k sq miles is still pretty darn significant. Less land area than Connecticut with almost 3x's the people.
And a lot of LA county is actually undeveloped mountains and desert, so you have a lot of people squeezed into even tighter spaces. Most people in LA County live in the LA Basin and its very densely packed.
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Old 08-05-2016, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Cbus
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Columbus, Ohio extends into Fairfield and Delaware counties but is mainly centered in Franklin County.

Franklin County- 1,231,393 in 532 sq mi (land area) as of 2014

The metro population in 2014 was 1,997,308 (however it has surpassed 2 million now and remains one of the fastest growing regions in the country).

So about 61% of the metro population lives in the core county.
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Old 08-05-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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2015 Estimates
Oklahoma County - 776,864
Oklahoma City MSA - 1,358,452

776,864/1,358,452 = 57.2%
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Old 08-05-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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Chicago:

Cook County: 5,246,456
Chicago MSA: 9,551,031

Cook County: 55%
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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Pittsburgh

Allegheny County: 1,230,459
Pittsburgh MSA: 2,356,496

52.5% of the MSA.



However, Beaver County also has urban towns that "could" be counted as core.

Allegheny and Beaver: 1,400,998
MSA: 2,356,496

That is about 60%.
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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This could be done easily for all 381 metro areas in Excel. But I'm not home now to use the spreadsheets and make the calculations. The thing is....metro areas can have more than one "central county."
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Old 08-05-2016, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Westminster/Huntington Beach, CA
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And a lot of LA county is actually undeveloped mountains and desert, so you have a lot of people squeezed into even tighter spaces. Most people in LA County live in the LA Basin and its very densely packed.
Calison did a rough drawing of contiguous development for LA MSA (or maybe it was CSA?) and concluded that the majority of the population lives within 3,000 sq miles. Some of that includes parts of neighboring counties, but those lines are arbitrary considering continuous development.
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Old 08-05-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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62.9% of the population in the Jacksonville MSA lives in Duval county.
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Old 08-05-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Doesn't this depend on where in the county the core city is located though?

For example, this metric was done for Detroit, which is located in the northeastern corner of Wayne County, and the city limits border Oakland and Macomb counties. So wouldn't you expect some of the metro population to be in those counties as well?
It depends on a few things. Every borough of NYC is its own county, but a city like St. Louis isn't in a county because it's an independent city.
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