U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-04-2016, 10:11 PM
 
6,561 posts, read 13,767,496 times
Reputation: 3030

Advertisements

I do not want a debate here. Only facts. Please take the 2014 census estimates for your core city, and the county that it is in. Then divide it by the total MSA population. I am interested to see how many "core counties" still make up over half their MSA. Please keep this thread to MSAs over 1 million, or the top 50 or so cities.

I will start with my current location:


Louisville (Jefferson County) 760,026
Louisville MSA 1,269,702

760,026/1,269,702= 59.9%

I would like to then compile a list. I think this largely shows how decentralized a metro area is. For metros over 3 million, I think it shows they are more multimodal....ie, different centers of population. Dallas and Ft Worth are probably the easiest example.

The comparison breaks down out West

Lest do Phoenix.

Maricopa County is 9224 massive sq miles. But with 4.16 million in its core county, that is alot. with 4.57 in the metro, we get 91%.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-04-2016, 11:10 PM
 
1,204 posts, read 880,606 times
Reputation: 1871
I'll play but I could only find the 2015 estimates:

Los Angeles (Los Angeles County) 10,170,292 -4,058 sq miles
Los Angeles MSA 13,340,068

10,170,292/13,340,068= 76.2%

Last edited by Texamichiforniasota; 08-04-2016 at 11:30 PM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-04-2016, 11:20 PM
 
6,561 posts, read 13,767,496 times
Reputation: 3030
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texamichiforniasota View Post
I'll play but I could only find the 2015 estimates:

Los Angeles (Los Angeles County) 10,170,292
Los Angeles MSA 13,340,068

10,170,292/13,340,068= 76.2%
Thanks. Again, massive west coast county in geographic area. For comparison, Louisville/Jefferson is only 398 sq miles.

LA county is 4,751....that is TWELVE times larger in land area than Jefferson County, KY. West coast counties are huge, and this is due to history. So, for purpose of this thread, please also include the land area of the core county. and 2015 estimates are fine.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-04-2016, 11:26 PM
 
1,204 posts, read 880,606 times
Reputation: 1871
Austin (Travis County) 931,830 - 990 sq miles
Austin MSA 2,020,452

931,830/2,020,452= 46.1%

Houston (Harris County) 4,538,028 -1,703 sq miles
Houston MSA 6,656,947

4,538,028/6,656,947= 68.2%

Last edited by Texamichiforniasota; 08-05-2016 at 12:28 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-04-2016, 11:31 PM
 
1,204 posts, read 880,606 times
Reputation: 1871
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter1948 View Post
Thanks. Again, massive west coast county in geographic area. For comparison, Louisville/Jefferson is only 398 sq miles.

LA county is 4,751....that is TWELVE times larger in land area than Jefferson County, KY. West coast counties are huge, and this is due to history. So, for purpose of this thread, please also include the land area of the core county. and 2015 estimates are fine.
Some of that for LA County is the Pacific Ocean, so I edited my posts to include land area of the county.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-04-2016, 11:49 PM
 
1,204 posts, read 880,606 times
Reputation: 1871
Minneapolis (Hennepin County) 1,223,149- 554 sq miles
St. Paul (Ramsey County) 538,133- 152 sq miles
Twin Cities MSA 3,524,583

1,761,282/3,524,583= 50%

Detroit (Wayne County) 1,759,335- 612 sq miles
Detroit MSA 4,302,043

1,759,335/4,302,043= 40.9%
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-04-2016, 11:51 PM
 
1,204 posts, read 880,606 times
Reputation: 1871
My posts above are MSA's, not CSA's, and the areas are the land area of the counties (since very few people live on the water).

Last edited by Texamichiforniasota; 08-05-2016 at 12:28 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2016, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
32,382 posts, read 55,207,132 times
Reputation: 15477
San Francisco MSA 4,656,132
San Francisco County(46 sq mi) 864,816-18.5% of the MSA

Bay Area CSA 8,713,914
Santa Clara County(1,290 sq mi) 1,918,044-22% of the CSA
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2016, 05:00 AM
 
3,965 posts, read 3,499,632 times
Reputation: 6384
Grand Rapids MSA 1,038,583
Kent County(847sq mi) 636,369

636,369/1,038,583= 61.3%
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-05-2016, 05:20 AM
 
3,965 posts, read 3,499,632 times
Reputation: 6384
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter1948 View Post
Thanks. Again, massive west coast county in geographic area. For comparison, Louisville/Jefferson is only 398 sq miles.

LA county is 4,751....that is TWELVE times larger in land area than Jefferson County, KY. West coast counties are huge, and this is due to history. So, for purpose of this thread, please also include the land area of the core county. and 2015 estimates are fine.
For comparison sake 10.2 million people in 5k sq miles is still pretty darn significant. Less land area than Connecticut with almost 3x's the people.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top