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Old 08-19-2016, 07:22 AM
 
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Austin is a strange one. Certainly has some southwestern cowboy vibe in certain areas. It's a mix of Portland, Lubbock and Boulder. Haha.
I think that is a greatly accurate assertion.

I also know many Texans who don't care to be labeled Southern. To them, Texas doesn't need to align itself with the South. I think the cowboy culture may have something to do with it. That isn't Southern.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Houston I feel is an outlier even in the South with its huge Hispanic and Asian representation which is more similar to the Southwest and West Coast.

Personally I feel the true pure South ends at Louisiana. Texas is a transition between the South and the Southwest. Austin is neither I find.
Absolutely. But I think east Texas closely mirrors the south more than any other part of Texas, as in it's more Louisiana than Midland.
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Old 08-19-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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I think that is a greatly accurate assertion.

I also know many Texans who don't care to be labeled Southern. To them, Texas doesn't need to align itself with the South. I think the cowboy culture may have something to do with it. That isn't Southern.
cowboy culture, independence. Also, I don't think any state has more state pride than Texas.
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Old 08-19-2016, 09:32 AM
 
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Really. What is that culture from DC and up? Philly and Baltimore don't even have the same culture.
Obviously two different cities in different states don't have the exact same culture...

But they have a similar culture when compared with southern cities for instance as somebody already elaborated on.
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Old 08-19-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Obviously two different cities in different states don't have the exact same culture...

But they have a similar culture when compared with southern cities for instance as somebody already elaborated on.
In my other post I explained how that's not actually true.

I said that Baltimore doesn't have nearly nearly as many ethnic Whites, Puerto Ricans (they are negligible), Caribbean, and not to mention the history is so much different. How would the culture be the same or even that similar? Baltimore isn't even fast paced. Most of its Black population has been in the country for many generations as well and makes up a much larger percentage of it. Baltimore is less than 3% Italian.

So, yeah not really seeing how. Rowhouses. Rowhouses make the culture I guess.

Between Philly to Boston there are similarities that really seem to stop at the Mason Dixon line. Where are the Italians? The super fast pace? The Caribbean and Puerto Rican populations? Even if Baltimore and DC aren't in the true SOUTH per se by culture they DO stand out from the rest of the BosWash cities.
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Old 08-20-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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In my other post I explained how that's not actually true.

I said that Baltimore doesn't have nearly nearly as many ethnic Whites, Puerto Ricans (they are negligible), Caribbean, and not to mention the history is so much different. How would the culture be the same or even that similar? Baltimore isn't even fast paced. Most of its Black population has been in the country for many generations as well and makes up a much larger percentage of it. Baltimore is less than 3% Italian.

So, yeah not really seeing how. Rowhouses. Rowhouses make the culture I guess.

Between Philly to Boston there are similarities that really seem to stop at the Mason Dixon line. Where are the Italians? The super fast pace? The Caribbean and Puerto Rican populations? Even if Baltimore and DC aren't in the true SOUTH per se by culture they DO stand out from the rest of the BosWash cities.
By your logic Italians (only within the city limits) make the culture. Italians moved to the suburbs a long time ago during "white flight." There is a sizable carribean population in Baltimore, sizeable enough to have carnival with most carribean nations represented. NW Baltimore is home base for the carribean in the area, as well as the Jewish community..in the city. Fells Point is the Latin community, Patterson Park is Latin and Greek, just outside the city in Dundalk is a growing Puerto Rican community. Dominicans seem to be growing, but scattered around the metro. But by your logic if it's not Boston, NYC, Philly, Chicago or St. Louis then it's the south.

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Old 08-20-2016, 10:50 AM
 
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East coast to me is Maine to the DC area.
This is always interesting to me. The East Coast by definition is the entire eastern seaboard of the US. What you're thinking is probably more a broad "Northeast" definition. The Southeast or South which is probably what you would consider VA and south on the eastern seaboard is still the East Coast (most states anyway). It's really not accurate to say that the East Coast stops in DC. Kind of like Pacific NW and Southern CA, or just CA. People like to distinguish them but they are both West Coast.
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Old 08-20-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: New York City
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This is always interesting to me. The East Coast by definition is the entire eastern seaboard of the US. What you're thinking is probably more a broad "Northeast" definition. The Southeast or South which is probably what you would consider VA and south on the eastern seaboard is still the East Coast (most states anyway). It's really not accurate to say that the East Coast stops in DC. Kind of like Pacific NW and Southern CA, or just CA. People like to distinguish them but they are both West Coast.
I get what you're saying, but I've never heard anyone refer to Seattle or Portland as the west coast...
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Old 08-20-2016, 12:08 PM
 
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I get what you're saying, but I've never heard anyone refer to Seattle or Portland as the west coast...
Interesting. I have. And regardless of whether or not you have heard people call those cities West Coast cities... they are West Coast cities.
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Old 08-20-2016, 01:41 PM
 
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In my other post I explained how that's not actually true.

I said that Baltimore doesn't have nearly nearly as many ethnic Whites, Puerto Ricans (they are negligible), Caribbean, and not to mention the history is so much different. How would the culture be the same or even that similar? Baltimore isn't even fast paced. Most of its Black population has been in the country for many generations as well and makes up a much larger percentage of it. Baltimore is less than 3% Italian.

So, yeah not really seeing how. Rowhouses. Rowhouses make the culture I guess.

Between Philly to Boston there are similarities that really seem to stop at the Mason Dixon line. Where are the Italians? The super fast pace? The Caribbean and Puerto Rican populations? Even if Baltimore and DC aren't in the true SOUTH per se by culture they DO stand out from the rest of the BosWash cities.
I think majority of people don't define a city's culture by Rowhouses or how many Puerto Ricans and Caribbeans live in the city.
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