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View Poll Results: Which cities in different regions are the most similar to you?
NYC-Chicago 12 24.00%
Baltimore-St. Louis 28 56.00%
Detroit-Los Angeles 3 6.00%
Other (Please explain why in a post) 9 18.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 50. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-13-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Rochester NY
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YES IT CAN BE WRONG LOL are you going to tell me that if someone has an opinion the U.S. doesn't consist of 50 states that that isn't wrong? Where's your logic? An opinion is defined as one's point of view. You're telling me that one's point of view can't be correct or incorrect? That whether or not they coincide with facts doesn't make them right or wrong? You make zero sense.
If someone said that there weren't 50 states in the U.S they would only be disregarding a fact. That example has nothing to do with opinion.

 
Old 08-13-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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So you called people out for proposing Baltimore/Philly and Atlanta/Houston, but you then proceed to propose Cincy/Louisville and Buffalo/Cleveland? Lol, okay. I myself as a lifelong Buffalonian have long considered Cleveland (and not say Rochester NY) to be Buffalo's sister city...but in no way do I consider the three-hour drive which separates the two cities to be one which transports a person between regions. Sure, you'll probably counter by saying that Buffalo is NE and Cleveland is in the midwest, but that's ultimately arbitrary. They're Great Lakes cities, both on the same lake in fact, and quite similar. Euclid OH approaching Cleveland feels like home to me--feels like Lackawanna NY approaching Buffalo.
I would contend that Buffalo and Milwaukee are even more similar than Buffalo and Cleveland. Both are mid-sized Great Lakes cities with metro populations between 1-2M. Both are less than 100 miles away from major North American cities. Both have two major sports franchises, unless you count the Packers as a Milwaukee team. Both have black populations of 38% and sizable Polish/German/Irish populations. The cities have similar accents. Similar cultures that include fish fries, custard, bowling, beer drinking, sports fanaticism, and summertime festivals. Similar park systems designed by Frederick Law Olmsted. Similar housing styles and even similar skylines.
 
Old 08-13-2016, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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The panhandle of Texas, Panhandle of Oklahoma, Western Kansas, Eastern New Mexico, and Eastern Colorado has much in common to the point it can be argued as a region of it's own. Everything isn't black and white. Yes, Kansas is Midwestern and Texas is Southern. But nobody can tell me Perryton,TX has more in common with Tyler,TX than it does with Liberal,KS.

I've heard Austin and Columbus are similar.
 
Old 08-13-2016, 10:41 PM
 
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Culture and linguistics and politics. The Census Bureau simply uses an outdated Mason Dixon line to define the South because of it traditionally being the border. However that line hasn't been accurate for a very long time. They're the same region. Anybody with half a brain could've figured that out. Now go on believing the Mason Dixon line is the end all be all line for regions and ignore all the defining characteristics of regions I brought up like you've been doing.
Can you explain some cultural or political similarities? Or if repeating they are culturally similar enough for you?
 
Old 08-14-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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Can you explain some cultural or political similarities? Or if repeating they are culturally similar enough for you?
Both Baltimore and Philadelphia are very blue. Culture is pretty much obvious and doesn't need an explanation. Nothing magical happens when you leave Baltimore for Philadelphia.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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If someone said that there weren't 50 states in the U.S they would only be disregarding a fact. That example has nothing to do with opinion.
Your opinion disregards facts. It is a fact that Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Virginia are the real South culturally, linguistically, and demographically. And it's also a fact that Cleveland and Buffalo are in different regions. Cleveland is the Midwest, Buffalo is the Northeast.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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If someone said that there weren't 50 states in the U.S they would only be disregarding a fact. That example has nothing to do with opinion.
Some opinions are more informed than others. Knowing someone from/in Texas is not the same as knowing Texas itself.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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Both Baltimore and Philadelphia are very blue. Culture is pretty much obvious and doesn't need an explanation. Nothing magical happens when you leave Baltimore for Philadelphia.
New Orleans is a very blue city, it certainly isn't Northeastern.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Rochester NY
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Your opinion disregards facts. It is a fact that Louisiana, Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Virginia are the real South culturally, linguistically, and demographically. And it's also a fact that Cleveland and Buffalo are in different regions. Cleveland is the Midwest, Buffalo is the Northeast.
Nowhere did this thread say, "Strictly according to the regions designated by the U.S. Census Bureau......". No, different people interpret regions differently. That's what I mean by there is no gray area with you, everything is either black or white. Many people have already based their comments on this thread based on unofficial regions like; the Rust Belt, Sun Belt, Appalachia, Deep South, Great Lakes Region, Upper Midwest, Mid-Atlantic, and the list goes on. So just chill out man and stop disagreeing with every single poster on here.
 
Old 08-14-2016, 10:12 AM
 
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Nowhere did this thread say, "Strictly according to the regions designated by the U.S. Census Bureau......". No, different people interpret regions differently. That's what I mean by there is no gray area with you, everything is either black or white. Many people have already based their comments on this thread based on unofficial regions like; the Rust Belt, Sun Belt, Appalachia, Deep South, Great Lakes Region, Upper Midwest, Mid-Atlantic, and the list goes on. So just chill out man and stop disagreeing with every single poster on here.
It isn't strictly defined by the census bureau, it's whatever he wants. while the OH/PA/NY border is infallible in separating the Midwest and Northeast, Maryland and Delaware are Northeastern by his apparently perfect definition of regions.
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