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Old 08-09-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Well, San Jose despite being the most populous city in the Bay Area and a pop of 1.02 million is still a suburb, San Francisco is the main city
I don't think you can call San Jose a suburb, though, since it is widely viewed as the closest city to Silicon Valley, and has its own suburbs. While it doesn't have the glamour of San Francisco, or the urbanity of Oakland, I think calling a city of 1 million a suburb, no matter how suburban in layout, is intellectually disingenuous.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:14 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Miami: 441,003
Secondary cities in Miami-Dade County only with more than 10%
Hialeah
Miami Gardens
Doral
North Miami
North Miami Beach
Miami Beach
Coral Gables
Kendall
Cutler Bay
Homestead

sorry...census website went down so I can't give you latest population estimates.
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Old 08-09-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Hartford, CT city population: 125,211

By the term "city," I am assuming that you mean any incorporated place (i.e. cities or towns). So, cities and towns within the Hartford, CT metro area that have a population of at least 12,521:

Avon
Berlin
Bloomfield
Bristol
East Hartford
Enfield
Farmington
Glastonbury
Manchester
New Britain
Newington
Plainville
Rocky Hill
Simsbury
Southington
South Windsor
Suffield
West Hartford
Wethersfield
Windsor
Windsor Locks
Clinton
Cromwell
East Hampton
Middletown
Ellington
Mansfield
Tolland
Vernon
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Old 08-09-2016, 01:17 PM
 
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I don't think you can call San Jose a suburb, though, since it is widely viewed as the closest city to Silicon Valley, and has its own suburbs. While it doesn't have the glamour of San Francisco, or the urbanity of Oakland, I think calling a city of 1 million a suburb, no matter how suburban in layout, is intellectually disingenuous.
Agree with this. San Jose also was founded around the same time as San Francisco. It was a population center before the bay area was completely engulfed in development. While it might be some what ambiguous since San Francisco is the big brother. San Jose never developed as a suburb. The central core more reflects the low-mid rise style of development present in Mountain West core cities like Albuquerque or Fresno, rather than pure suburban patterns. It is not the same as the inland empire which is only statistically separate from LA on paper.
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Old 08-09-2016, 04:10 PM
 
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Interesting criteria.

Dallas-Fort Worth have two actual major cities. Using Dallas and the 2016 estimates for 2015, there are elven secondary cities, up two (Frisco and Denton) from the 2010 Census.

Dallas (1,300,092)
10%=130,009
Fort Worth (833,318)
Arlington (388,125)
Plano (283,558)
Garland (236,897)
Irving (236,607)
Grand Prairie (187,809)
McKinney (162,898)
Frisco (154,407)
Mesquite (144,788)
Carrollton (133,168)
Denton (131,044)

Using Fort Worth, although it isn't "the" major city of the metroplex, there are an additional three cities.
Fort Worth (833,318)
10%=83,332
Richardson (110,815)
Lewisville (104,039)
Allen (98,143)

Excluding Dallas, "the" Major city (although not the only one), there are 13 cities with populations over 100,000. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 14 at this moment, with how quickly Allen is growing.
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Old 08-11-2016, 12:48 AM
 
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For Los Angeles, at a population of 3,971,883, only one city meets the 10% threshold:

Long Beach 474,140

21 other cities in the MSA meet the 100,000 population cutoff:

Anaheim 350,742
Santa Ana 335,400
Irvine 256,927
Huntington Beach 201,899
Glendale 201,020
Santa Clarita 182,371
Garden Grove 175,393
Lancaster 161,103
Palmdale 158,351
Pomona 153,266
Torrance 148,475
Pasadena 142,250
Orange 140,992
Fullerton 140,847
El Monte 116,732
Downey 114,219
Costa Mesa 113,204
Inglewood 111,666
West Covina 108,484
Norwalk 107,140
Burbank 105,319

There are 15 more cities in the CSA with >100,000 population:

Riverside 322,424
San Bernadino 216,108
Fontana 207,460
Oxnard 207,254
Moreno Valley 204,198
Rancho Cucamonga 175,236
Ontario 171,214
Corona 164,226
Thousand Oaks 129,339
Simi Valley 126,788
Victorville 122,225
Temecula 112,011
Murrieta 109,830
Ventura 109,708
Rialto 103,132
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Albuquerque has one, Rio Rancho which with a population of ~80,000 is a bit less than 20% of Albuquerque proper's population.

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I guess the closest thing in the NYC area is the Town of Hempstead, with a population of 770,000, but even that doesn't make the 10% cut.
In New York State, a 'town' is a sub-county level municipality made up of hamlets, villages and even small cities. In some states, this is called a "township". I don't think it would qualify either way.
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:31 AM
 
Location: The City
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wow, I'm actually surprised, I thought there would be at least one city, but like you said it has to do with the small boundries, but even then it's just mainly Camden, Wilmington and Trenton.


its really a function of size of the municipal boundaries


Upper Darby (has a subway) with a population of about 85K is less than 8 sq miles and probably more urban than any non commercial area in the Seattle area as an example


Norristown PA (has a subway or heavy rail) is like 3sq miles next to Bridgeport, next to Conshy etc all with population densities greater then Seattle proper as an example but all very small in land area.


KOP (getting HR) a large edge city of sorts is a combinations of multiple townships and even counties none greater then 65K people


Wilmington DE is like 10 sq miles and 70K people, its skyline is probably comparable to Bellvue in many ways


Chester PA or Camden (has a subway) are again very small land area wise - the townships flow into one another so none have large individual populations but strung together are large and very urban in many ways


most municipalities close to philly are smaller than 10 sq miles, especially on the PA side of the river, even the NJ towns close to the river are generally very small in land area
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma City
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Using the 10% threshold, OKC has two:
OKC: 631,346 (10% = 63,134)

Norman: 120,284
Edmond: 90,092
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: sumter
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How many secondary cities does your metro have?

I will define "secondary" as any city that has at least 10% the population of the major city.

Seattle: 684,451 (100.0%)
1. Tacoma: 207,948 (30.4%)
2. Bellevue: 139,820 (20.4%)
3. Kent: 126,952 (18.5%)
4. Everett: 108,010 (15.8%)
5. Renton: 100,242 (14.6%)
6. Federal Way: 95,171 (13.9%)
7. Kirkland: 87,281 (12.8%)
8. Auburn: 77,006 (11.3%)

So Seattle has 8 "secondary" cities that are at least 10% of it's population (68,445) with the largest city being Tacoma at 30.4%.

So what about your metro, or any other one you are interested in? Also if you are going to add cities in the CSA then put an * at the end to specify that it is outside the MSA.

IrishIllini pointed out that this will favor smaller cities, so you can also mention how many cities have 100,000 people or more, in that case Seattle has 5 cities.
Not all of these can be a secondary city. You have the the principal city of a metro, then perhaps a secondary. In some metros you have satellite cities, cities with their own historic downtown areas and own government which is independent of the principal city. Then you have the edge cities, cities with large employment bases and cultural offerings. I believe you can have many edge cities and several satellite cities in a metro, but I believe there could be only one secondary city. Tacoma is the second city in the Seattle metro and that's it, all these other cities are just large suburban cities, or edge/ satellite cities.
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