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Old 08-11-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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Especially in northwestern New Jersey. It helps to have forest covered hills, you can see more autumn trees then in flat areas.

The Official Web Site for The State of New Jersey - Photo Gallery - Autumn (autumn 2008 New Jersey) This website has some photos that might shock people because it is not what you think of New Jersey.

In the fall, people like to get away from the cities and suburbs so they sometimes overlook what is in their own backyard and head off to the Poconos, the Catskills, the Berkshires and the Green Mountains.

Yes absolutely. When I lived in New Jersey for school and drove back Upstate, I would drive through the Poconos and Lehigh Valley PA, and it was gorgeous. North Jersey is gorgeous as well.

So many hills and peaks and river valleys.

The Northeast is mostly the same when it comes to small towns, history and fall foliage. Even the major cities are all similar.
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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Simple answer to the original question: Marketing.

New England states have put a ton of effort into pushing autumn scenery as part of their tourism lure.

I would agree with this.

New England states use fall foliage as a huge marketing tactic because they don't have much else (i'm talking about Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine)

The other New England states just push their cities (Boston) or coastal activities (sailing, etc.)
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Why do make such an all encompassing statement- as if your opinion were fact?
Because he is a knoitall. I've seen vibrant fall colors as far East as Ahoskie. The reasoning he has for North Carolina not having foliage because it's subtropical is hilarious seeing as how Virginia and DC is also subtropical and they also have vibrant fall colors.
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:42 AM
 
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Because he is a knoitall. I've seen vibrant fall colors as far East as Ahoskie. The reasoning he has for North Carolina not having foliage because it's subtropical is hilarious seeing as how Virginia and DC is also subtropical and they also have vibrant fall colors.
DC isn't a true subtropical climate, and neither is most of Virginia (except, perhaps, Virginia Beach). Fall color is triggered by latitude, not temp, anyways.
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Because he is a knoitall. I've seen vibrant fall colors as far East as Ahoskie. The reasoning he has for North Carolina not having foliage because it's subtropical is hilarious seeing as how Virginia and DC is also subtropical and they also have vibrant fall colors.
We have some beautiful fall colors in the North Ga mtns.
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Old 08-11-2016, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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You really don't think Upstate has that?

Let's not forgot what states fought over Vermont. It was almost ours to begin with.
"Ours"!? Why I oughtta.... (in my best Moe imitation)
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Old 08-11-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I would agree with this.

New England states use fall foliage as a huge marketing tactic because they don't have much else (i'm talking about Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine)

The other New England states just push their cities (Boston) or coastal activities (sailing, etc.)
Lots of NY plates in Vt in the winter. I guess they get lost after leaf peeping season.
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Old 08-11-2016, 12:27 PM
 
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The rest of the country DOES NOT think that. Fall foliage in the South is equally impressive.

GEORGIA:
Fall foilage in the South is not as impressive as in the North due to a much lower percentage of tree species, especially maples, that produce anthocyanins, which ceate red coloration of leaves.

<<Anthocyanins are present in about 10% of tree species in temperate regions, although in certain areas — most famously New England — up to 70% of tree species may produce the pigment.[6] In autumn forests they appear vivid in the maples, oaks, sourwood, sweetgums, dogwoods, tupelos, cherry trees and persimmons. These same pigments often combine with the carotenoids' colors to create the deeper orange, fiery reds, and bronzes typical of many hardwood species.>>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autumn...ote-tree1044-6

E.g., see Figure 2 here:

http://maple.dnr.cornell.edu/pubs/trees.htm

Regions with significant maple sugar industries, such as northeastern Ohio, likely have better fall colors as well.

http://www.maplesyrupworld.com/pages...ple-Syrup.html

Areas of Canada, New York, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin also have forests with high anthocyanin production. E.g., Letchworth State Park in western NY is spectacular for leaf peepers, for those who also might want to visit nearby Niagara Falls.

Letchworth State Park

Letchworth Middle Falls In Fall Photograph by Mark Papke

Certainly, New England architecture adds to the charm of the region in the autumn. In the eyes of National Geographic, eastern Holmes County in Ohio goes even a step further with its high percentage of Amish farms among the rolling Appalachian foothills.

Top 10 Places to See Autumn Leaves -- National Geographic

<<The character of autumn color is different in different parts of the world. In New England and the northeast sections of Asia, a few species dominate the deciduous forests. The display there tends to be short but intense because the change is rapid and rather uniform. In the southern Appalachians, the change is often gradual and the fall foliage season may last for more than a month because of the greater diversity of plant species found in the forest there.>>

The Science of Color in Autumn Leaves

Europe is even more color challenged, explaining why Europeans also enjoy leaf peeping in New England.

Why Fall Colors Are Different in U.S. and Europe

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Old 08-11-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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DC isn't a true subtropical climate, and neither is most of Virginia (except, perhaps, Virginia Beach). Fall color is triggered by latitude, not temp, anyways.

-- You keep saying that, but you still don't explain why leaves change weeks sooner in mountains than lowlands even further north. Or why earlier cold snaps in fall produce earlier leaf colour or why New York City, last December, still had leaves on their trees as a result to a mild start to winter...
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Old 08-11-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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Lots of NY plates in Vt in the winter. I guess they get lost after leaf peeping season.
What parts of VT?
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