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Old 10-07-2008, 08:06 PM
 
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Thanks for that map, which confirms that the "reddest" areas are the Rocky Mountain and Prarie states, not the South...
You must remember that the South has a lot of black folks who tend to vote democratic. Nothing wrong with that...I'm just stating what I believe is fact.
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:37 PM
 
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To the original poster, I think in most cases the further South or rural you get the more anti-liberal. However, there are states where it is quite mixed such as Virginia where the east side has more urban areas and tends to be more liberal whereas the western side is more rural and votes conservative. I would also throw in Kentucky into the worst states for liberals as well. Even areas where there are liberal arts colleges are still surrounded by conservative neighborhoods that tend to vote for having a dry town or vote against gay rights or rights of straight people who are not married by have been together for decades. There may be some exceptions in Louisville or Lexington, but from what I've seen of Kentucky if you do not fit the very conservative views of marriage or family life then you're going to have a bit of a hard time. They are also having a super hard time employment wise as well, so for any of you who are looking for jobs I would stay away from Kentucky.
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:46 AM
 
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You can't always go by Democrat/Republican to tell if a place is Liberal or Conservative. The county I live in voted around 60% for Kerry & Obama, but I would never consider this place very liberal. The county is also 50% Black. Black people tend to vote Democrat, but they are very socially conservative. And there are also a lot of rural white Southerners who are socially conservative but vote Democrat. My dad's side of the family is like that.
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Old 01-05-2009, 04:27 PM
 
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Even areas where there are liberal arts colleges are still surrounded by conservative neighborhoods that tend to vote for having a dry town or vote against gay rights or rights of straight people who are not married by have been together for decades.
I don't think liberal arts has anything to do with politics.

An ultraconservative school here (Bob Jones University) is liberal arts.
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Old 01-06-2009, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Madrid, Spain
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To the original poster, I think in most cases the further South or rural you get the more anti-liberal. However, there are states where it is quite mixed such as Virginia where the east side has more urban areas and tends to be more liberal whereas the western side is more rural and votes conservative. I would also throw in Kentucky into the worst states for liberals as well. Even areas where there are liberal arts colleges are still surrounded by conservative neighborhoods that tend to vote for having a dry town or vote against gay rights or rights of straight people who are not married by have been together for decades. There may be some exceptions in Louisville or Lexington, but from what I've seen of Kentucky if you do not fit the very conservative views of marriage or family life then you're going to have a bit of a hard time. They are also having a super hard time employment wise as well, so for any of you who are looking for jobs I would stay away from Kentucky.
I would love to move to Kentucky then haha! I am from Madrid, Spain, which is a VERY VERY liberal city infested with socialists and "pro gay" types.

I think the US is a great country precisely because it has many conservative places one can choose and NO socialized medicine like we have in Europe.
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Old 01-06-2009, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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I would love to move to Kentucky then haha! I am from Madrid, Spain, which is a VERY VERY liberal city infested with socialists and "pro gay" types.

I think the US is a great country precisely because it has many conservative places one can choose and NO socialized medicine like we have in Europe.
I hate to say it, but Liberals are the reason why cities like NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, LA, and other cities are hip/cool. Mississippi and the rest of the deep south are anti-liberal. I think Mississippi actually need more liberals, so the place can get more touristy. I starting think that if NYC was conservative, it wouldn't be the place to be city as it is today.
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Old 01-06-2009, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Madrid, Spain
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I hate to say it, but Liberals are the reason why cities like NYC, Chicago, San Francisco, LA, and other cities are hip/cool. Mississippi and the rest of the deep south are anti-liberal. I think Mississippi actually need more liberals, so the place can get more touristy. I starting think that if NYC was conservative, it wouldn't be the place to be city as it is today.
I'd rather be "backwards" and non cool than to allow organized robbers
(eg: BIG government) to steal my money and limit my God-given rights such as the right to property, the right to keep my wealth and the right to defend myself and NOT having to pay for lazy people on the dole/welfare. What's so "great" about NYC? It is an uncomfortable city, many places are unsafe (although statistics show this is improving thanks to CONSERVATIVE policies of Giuliani), city-wide smoke ban (not cool), stroller moms smiling at everyone, and, like in my country in Spain, filled with people who just want more and more and more regulation and limitations of basic liberties.

I know the US very well (Except the far west unfortunately) and I feel much "freer" in the deep south than I do in places like NY, where political correctness and affirmative action seems to be the norm or is it, "the cool way to do things?" Since when did killing liberties become cool and hip?
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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I'd rather be "backwards" and non cool than to allow organized robbers
(eg: BIG government) to steal my money and limit my God-given rights such as the right to property, the right to keep my wealth and the right to defend myself and NOT having to pay for lazy people on the dole/welfare. What's so "great" about NYC? It is an uncomfortable city, many places are unsafe (although statistics show this is improving thanks to CONSERVATIVE policies of Giuliani), city-wide smoke ban (not cool), stroller moms smiling at everyone, and, like in my country in Spain, filled with people who just want more and more and more regulation and limitations of basic liberties.

I know the US very well (Except the far west unfortunately) and I feel much "freer" in the deep south than I do in places like NY, where political correctness and affirmative action seems to be the norm or is it, "the cool way to do things?" Since when did killing liberties become cool and hip?
My opinion is that as cities get larger and larger, there is a belief that more regulation is required. Individual liberties must get curtailed and a different mindset/philosophy takes hold. Old-fashioned values go by the board and a new thinking takes hold.

Yes, I hear what you say about this type of thing and agree. The only way to escape it is to move to a rural state and a rural area where there are not so many people sticking their nose in you business. The belief in many of these rural areas is that good governement is the kind that governs least. That is my plan over the next couple of years.
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Old 01-06-2009, 04:13 AM
 
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If by "liberals" you mean "socialists" then definitely New Hampshire. It has all the things you hate: low total tax burden, personal freedom, thriving economy, gun rights, etc. It was chosen by the Free State Project for xristsakes! Stay away from it at all costs!
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I'd rather be "backwards" and non cool than to allow organized robbers (eg: BIG government) to steal my money and limit my God-given rights such as the right to property, the right to keep my wealth and the right to defend myself and NOT having to pay for lazy people on the dole/welfare.
For one thing, that's easy to say when you aren't even living in the US. And for another, those things you've listed aren't "God-given" at all. Quite the contrary, they're guarantees made possible only by democratic governments.
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