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View Poll Results: What is the most valuable city in the US? (excluding NYC and DC)
Los Angeles 44 55.00%
Chicago 8 10.00%
Dallas 0 0%
Houston 4 5.00%
Philadelphia 5 6.25%
Miami 0 0%
Atlanta 0 0%
Boston 3 3.75%
San Francisco 15 18.75%
Phoenix 1 1.25%
Detroit 0 0%
Seattle 0 0%
Other 0 0%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-17-2016, 06:10 PM
 
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No this is everything you have been saying. I've highlighted key words and phrases that illustrate how your whole argument is based on a hypothetical situation and not present reality.

Who cares what "MIGHT" happen in the future? That really isn't what this thread is about.
You can cherry-pick all you want. The tech industry is one industry. If you're implying tech is the sole force behind the Bay's recent emergence, you better read up on the rise and fall of Detroit. . Jokes aside, the Bay's strong showing in tech doesn't make it any more valuable than LA, Chicago, Seattle, Boston, Dallas, or Atlanta alone. The Bay is strong across multiple sectors, but so are a number of other places. The hyper-focus on tech is ridiculous, especially when multiple universities, cities, and states are working overtime to foster an environment that breeds the next Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, etc. These hubs are strengthening. It took San Francisco's tech scene decades to develop into what it is today, but it won't take others nearly that long to catch up. Too much money to be made.
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Old 08-17-2016, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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You can cherry-pick all you want. The tech industry is one industry. If you're implying tech is the sole force behind the Bay's recent emergence, you better read up on the rise and fall of Detroit. . Jokes aside, the Bay's strong showing in tech doesn't make it any more valuable than LA, Chicago, Seattle, Boston, Dallas, or Atlanta alone. The Bay is strong across multiple sectors, but so are a number of other places. The hyper-focus on tech is ridiculous, especially when multiple universities, cities, and states are working overtime to foster an environment that breeds the next Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, etc. These hubs are strengthening. It took San Francisco's tech scene decades to develop into what it is today, but it won't take others nearly that long to catch up. Too much money to be made.
Okay, but in the meantime no other area comes close, right?
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:34 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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You can cherry-pick all you want. The tech industry is one industry. If you're implying tech is the sole force behind the Bay's recent emergence, you better read up on the rise and fall of Detroit. . Jokes aside, the Bay's strong showing in tech doesn't make it any more valuable than LA, Chicago, Seattle, Boston, Dallas, or Atlanta alone. The Bay is strong across multiple sectors, but so are a number of other places. The hyper-focus on tech is ridiculous, especially when multiple universities, cities, and states are working overtime to foster an environment that breeds the next Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, etc. These hubs are strengthening. It took San Francisco's tech scene decades to develop into what it is today, but it won't take others nearly that long to catch up. Too much money to be made.
Cherry pick what? Those are your own words! I didn't cherry pick anything, you just don't want to admit that your whole argument you keep repeating is based on hypothetical situations and not current reality. And like clockwork you follow up with yet another post about what "MIGHT" happen. It's rather telling that you have to resort to what "might" happen to try to diminish the Bay Area's "value".

And I'm STILL waiting to hear what "high-profile companies" have pushed out of the Bay Area recently? Or did you just make that up?
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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Taking out the Bay Area would certainly cripple the US economically, but I'd also consider what possessions this enemy could attain to improve its own economy. A city like Chicago has museums with holdings worth billions, which would be a huge cash infusion for an enemy state.
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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The Bay is hugely important, but it doesn't supersede LA--not on an overall basis. Technology is great, but human capital is far more important. And in LAs case, it utilizes that technology WITH its human capital better than any place not named NYC and arguably DC.
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:23 PM
 
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I feel like multiple pages of this thread were just deleted.
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Old 08-17-2016, 09:20 PM
 
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The Bay is hugely important, but it doesn't supersede LA--not on an overall basis. Technology is great, but human capital is far more important. And in LAs case, it utilizes that technology WITH its human capital better than any place not named NYC and arguably DC.
But as I said earlier, LA's functions could more easily be transferred to other cities if it got hijacked by an invading country. The impact would be far greater and more devastating if this hypothetical rogue nation got ahold of SV combined with the Bay's other functions.
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Old 08-17-2016, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Taking out the Bay Area would certainly cripple the US economically, but I'd also consider what possessions this enemy could attain to improve its own economy. A city like Chicago has museums with holdings worth billions, which would be a huge cash infusion for an enemy state.
It can't be overstated how deeply pocketed the Bay Area is...

Top 5 US Companies By Cash on Hand, Bay Area in Red
1-Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL): $216.1 billion
2-Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT): $113.8 billion
3-Alphabet (NASDAQ:GOOGL)(NASDAQ:GOOG): $77.1 billion
4-Cisco Systems (NASDAQ:CSCO): $60.4 billion
5-Oracle (NYSE:ORCL): $54.4 billion


These 5 Companies Collectively Have $521 Billion in Cash and Investments -- The Motley Fool

Just 4 Bay Area companies have $418 billion just sitting there.

ijs
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Old 08-17-2016, 10:38 PM
 
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So many people here continue to allow their better judgement to be clouded by envy.

What pain could LA inflict on the world? What flip switched in LA could instantly affect lives in Perth or Paris alike? None that I can think of.

On the other hand:

[Facebook] now has 1.71 billion monthly active users, adding 60 million users from the previous quarter and growing its user base by 15% from the same quarter a year earlier.
On mobile, where Facebook was once thought to be be struggling, the company now has 1.57 billion monthly active users, up 20% year-over-year. And if that's not enough, there are 1.13 billion people using the social network every single day, on average.


Facebook now has more than 1.7 billion users - Jul. 27, 2016
Envy? Lol. LA is more valuable than San Francisco, the bay area, or whatever you want to call it. Looks like the poll agrees with me too.
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Old 08-18-2016, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Envy? Lol. LA is more valuable than San Francisco, the bay area, or whatever you want to call it. Looks like the poll agrees with me too.
Yawns Poles are for strippers and opinions are like rectums, everyone's got one. Who cares?

Back it up with facts or let those of us who use facts teach you.

And LA is not more valuable to our national economy than the Bay Area, sorry.
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