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View Poll Results: City that is biggest on baseball?
St. Louis 75 46.30%
New York 20 12.35%
Boston 31 19.14%
Chicago 20 12.35%
Los Angeles 6 3.70%
Other 10 6.17%
Voters: 162. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-31-2016, 03:02 PM
 
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This crap you read on this board...you have a sabermetric that measures fandom in head and shoulder units?
Come on, don't be a homer.

LA is a mediocre baseball market, if that.

Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Cincinnati (as mentioned) are among the best baseball markets in the country. They are in the upper tier.

Baseball is a cultural institution in those cities. In LA, it's an excuse to get drunk when the Lakers aren't playing.

Nobody leaves in the 7th inning in Philadelphia or Cincinnati. And everybody in the stands knows what an infield fly rule call is. Big difference.
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Old 08-31-2016, 03:07 PM
 
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Come on, don't be a homer.

LA is a mediocre baseball market, if that.

Detroit, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Cincinnati (as mentioned) are among the best baseball markets in the country. They are in the upper tier.

Baseball is a cultural institution in those cities. In LA, it's an excuse to get drunk when the Lakers aren't playing.

Nobody leaves in the 7th inning in Philadelphia or Cincinnati. And everybody in the stands knows what an infield fly rule call is. Big difference.
I guess mediocre has a new definition now. The largest stadium and tons of record breaking attendances. Must be mediocre.
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Old 08-31-2016, 04:06 PM
 
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I guess mediocre has a new definition now. The largest stadium and tons of record breaking attendances. Must be mediocre.
There are 16 million people in LA. A big stadium has nothing to do with it.

Colorado currently holds the single-season attendance records. Are you trying to tell me that Denver is a baseball market on par with Boston, St. Louis, and Cincinnati?

Pretty much nobody thinks that LA is a good baseball market besides people in LA. And they only think that because they are homers. Sorry...truth hurts.
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Old 08-31-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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There are 16 million people in LA. A big stadium has nothing to do with it.

Colorado currently holds the single-season attendance records. Are you trying to tell me that Denver is a baseball market on par with Boston, St. Louis, and Cincinnati?

Pretty much nobody thinks that LA is a good baseball market besides people in LA. And they only think that because they are homers. Sorry...truth hurts.
Are you trying to tell everyone that there is no way Denver could be on par with Boston, St. Louis, and Cincinnati? Please...those cities get way too much credit for baseball fans. There are other cities out there that love baseball too, but let's all drool over the traditional ones.

I hate when someone condescends like that - how dare anyone think their city can compete with yours.
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Old 08-31-2016, 04:31 PM
 
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Are you trying to tell everyone that there is no way Denver could be on par with Boston, St. Louis, and Cincinnati? Please...those cities get way too much credit for baseball fans. There are other cities out there that love baseball too, but let's all drool over the traditional ones.

I hate when someone condescends like that - how dare anyone think their city can compete with yours.
The Boston Red Sox get more viewers on NESN within the Boston Media Market than the Yankees and Mets get Combined (545,000 vs 515,000).
That is a large gap between cities, Especially because the Boston MSA is about 1/5th the size of NYC's.
To pretend the gap is insignificant is foolish.
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Old 08-31-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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Are you trying to tell everyone that there is no way Denver could be on par with Boston, St. Louis, and Cincinnati? Please...those cities get way too much credit for baseball fans. There are other cities out there that love baseball too, but let's all drool over the traditional ones.

I hate when someone condescends like that - how dare anyone think their city can compete with yours.
None (not Detroit, Boston, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, Chicago, St. Louis, Baltimore, or New York) of those are even my city, lol.

I'm not saying that Denver is not on par with Boston, St. Louis, or Cincinnati. I'm saying that it is generally accepted that their baseball fans aren't as good. Now, that's as a rule...obviously there are good baseball fans in almost every major league market, but by and large, there are some markets that are better than other. This isn't really controversial, either.

I don't know why people get so defensive about the littlest things on City-Data. Would you be equally outraged if I said that Denver is a better football town than St. Louis? Because that's true, too....
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Old 09-01-2016, 06:26 AM
 
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David Ortiz's retirement year will do that.
Ratings are only up 11%, and considering the Team went from Last Place to 2nd Place, David Ortiz seems like he has nothing to do with it.
It was also a certain Yankees last year.
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Old 09-01-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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It's big throughout the western Midwest, and of course the northeast. If Iowa had a team, I would guess that would be the most baseball crazed, as when I traveled through that state there were fields, with people playing, everywhere (and of course the Field of Dreams is there as well). However, with the current baseball cities I'd have to go with:

1. St. Louis
2. Chicago
3. New York
3. Boston
5. The Twin Cities
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Old 09-01-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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The Boston Red Sox get more viewers on NESN within the Boston Media Market than the Yankees and Mets get Combined (545,000 vs 515,000).
That is a large gap between cities, Especially because the Boston MSA is about 1/5th the size of NYC's.
To pretend the gap is insignificant is foolish.
Where are you getting your numbers from? Forbes has midseason ratings for primetime games (7-11 pm) on all the regional sports networks, showing the Red Sox at 163,00 households, the Mets at 228,000 households, and the Yankees (who had Comcast drop a large segment of viewers this year) at 188,000 households. Fangraphs has an illustration (that I've linked below) showing that the Yankees and Mets still have the highest number of households in terms of total viewers.

Forbes Welcome

MLB Television Viewership Up Five Percent | FanGraphs Baseball



And keep in mind, this is just the regional sports networks ratings this year. This doesn't include national broadcasts across the ESPN, ESPN2, FOX, FS1, TBS and MLB network. I can't find a comprehensive listing of all the broadcasts from this year, but you're fooling yourself if you think the Red Sox have more televised national appearances than the Yankees and Mets combined.
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Old 09-01-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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It's big throughout the western Midwest, and of course the northeast. If Iowa had a team, I would guess that would be the most baseball crazed, as when I traveled through that state there were fields, with people playing, everywhere (and of course the Field of Dreams is there as well). However, with the current baseball cities I'd have to go with:

1. St. Louis
2. Chicago
3. New York
3. Boston
5. The Twin Cities
I agree. St Louis wins in my opinion especially given it's population compared to other cities and very consistent fan base/attendance.
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