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Old 08-27-2016, 11:45 AM
 
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Which do you think is the most "hands off" state as far as freedom in general? I know that Texas likes to boast this, but at the same time, it's mainly conservative issues that they promote... I'm wondering about freedom across the board. Minimal restriction on anything. Give examples, please... Thank you
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Old 08-27-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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According to the Cato Institute's "Freedom in the 50 States," Arizona, Colorado, and Nevada are 10th, 11th, and 12th respectively. Texas is all the way down the list at number 28.

Texans like to say that their state is "Live and Let Live," but the state is statistically one of the worst in the nation for personal liberties. If it weren't for their high ranking in economic freedoms, Texas would easily be in the bottom 10.
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Old 08-27-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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Which do you think is the most "hands off" state as far as freedom in general? I know that Texas likes to boast this, but at the same time, it's mainly conservative issues that they promote... I'm wondering about freedom across the board. Minimal restriction on anything. Give examples, please... Thank you
Have you considered New Hampshire?

Freedom in the 50 States 2015-2016 | New Hampshire Overall Freedom | Cato Institute
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Old 08-27-2016, 03:38 PM
 
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Yeah, but too cold. Colorado is only a contender because it's so dry that it doesn't feel too cold.
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Old 08-27-2016, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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Nevada would be the best state by far for the libertarians. The state is all about low-regulation except when it comes to the casino and taxi industry.

The state is basically the anti-California when it comes to taxes and regulation outside of a few industries.

The people are totally live and let live. The culture is based on if one doesn't like something then ignore it. The people are very too each there and own.

The taxes are unbelievably low. They have no income tax and property taxes are extremely low compared to other states and there is a property tax limit.

I rented a room in a 6 bedroom, 4 bathroom house and the tax bill for the owner was $1,400 a year.

The population in general is more then content with being a extremely low-tax state with extremely low level of service.

Arizona is very libertarian also, but the taxes are higher then Nevada. Arizona is also a very live and let live state but I wouldn't say they take low taxes and the live and let live mentality as seriously as Nevada.

Arizonans for example will approve tax or revenue increases from time to time if it is for a dedicated purpose. Nevada on the other hand is all about the low taxes.

Colorado in my opinion is not a free state. If freedom is important, Colorado is about the last place I would consider.

The state is going to have to raise taxes for better or worse also. The interstate infrastructure is terrible for the population and there has been massive growth in the schools that will have to be funded. The state last year had to make budget cuts due to a deficit despite having one of the highest job growth and lowest unemployment rates in the nation.

Colorado also has some major unfunded pension liabilities that will likely require large tax increases.

Colorado has changed drastically since the late 1990s. Back then it was a much more conservative state then it is now.

In fact many older Coloradoans who moved here in the 1970s for the old, cowboy, western grit that was rough around the edges are moving to places like Wyoming and Montana.

In my opinion, Colorado is becoming a California-lite. For better or worse, the state has the same pension issues as states like California.

The worst state in the West for freedom lovers in my opinion would be Utah. The taxes are quite high for a western state but the infrastructure, higher education and economy is excellent. They seem to love to regulate and add a tremendous amount of laws and regulations to the books. They also enforce every law in Utah with an iron hand also.

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Old 08-27-2016, 04:40 PM
 
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I would say it's Texas, though Nevada feels pretty free too. IMO you can kind of feel it as soon as you enter Texas airspace- this "hands off, mind your own business" vibe that permeates through the culture.
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Old 08-27-2016, 04:52 PM
 
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I would say it's Texas, though Nevada feels pretty free too. IMO you can kind of feel it as soon as you enter Texas airspace- this "hands off, mind your own business" vibe that permeates through the culture.
The Cato Institute disagrees. Texas ranks 49/50 for personal freedom.
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Old 08-27-2016, 04:57 PM
 
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Colorado in my opinion is not a free state. If freedom is important, Colorado is about the last place I would consider.
You also have a rampant anti-Colorado, anti-growth bias that you have no problem oversharing. Colorado is ranked 2nd in personal freedom according to Cato (whose opinion on libertarianism I trust more than yours).
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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The Cato Institute disagrees. Texas ranks 49/50 for personal freedom.
Cool. I'm not the Cato Institute though and that's my personal feelings on the issue.
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:35 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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Marijuana laws:

Texas: over 4oz = felony
Arizona: any amount = felony
Nevada: 1oz or less (like a joint) if caught 4 times = felony, mandatory sentencing 1-4 years

Colorado, legalized

State Laws
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