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Old 10-13-2016, 03:25 PM
 
Location: The Windy City
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I'm originally from NC and I think most people from that part of the south consider anything west of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon line to be "not the South". The exceptions are Arkansas and Louisiana. Texas isn't the north or the south... it's just Texas.

I bet someone originally from Texas, Louisiana, or Arkansas would consider Texas to be the South.

Oklahoma has some southern elements, but I don't think North Carolinians would consider it to be part of the South.

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Sorry but you're very wrong. St. Louis and most of the counties north of Cape Girardeau are culturally, demographically, and linguistically not Southern. You have no idea what the South is.
I moved to Columbia, Missouri from North Carolina. My graduate advisor kept insisting that I was in the South. I kept reminding her that I'm from NC and that this is not at all the South. I don't think she had ever ventured out much. Even in the bootheel of Missouri, I still didn't feel like I was in the South.
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Old 10-13-2016, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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I'm originally from NC and I think most people from that part of the south consider anything west of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon line to be "not the South". The exceptions are Arkansas and Louisiana. Texas isn't the north or the south... it's just Texas.

I bet someone originally from Texas, Louisiana, or Arkansas would consider Texas to be the South.

Oklahoma has some southern elements, but I don't think North Carolinians would consider it to be part of the South.
Arkansas and Louisiana and Texas are all solidly Southern and south of the Mason Dixon line.
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Old 10-13-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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Having lived in Kansas for a large portion of my life, i never once considered it as "northern" or "southern". I considered it as the central of the United States . I always consider Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, as the "south"
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Old 10-13-2016, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Having lived in Kansas for a large portion of my life, i never once considered it as "northern" or "southern". I considered it as the central of the United States . I always consider Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, as the "south"
Kansas is geographically central but culturally linguistically and demographically it is Northern.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:44 AM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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So, some people are trying to categorize St. Louis as southern. It's really subjective, and one opinion has no more value than the next. The reason? St. Louis is in Missouri, which is a part of the Midwest. Unless that changes, all of Missouri is Midwestern. It may have some southern influence, but it's not a part of the south.
Most people here are discussing culture, not what the census designation is. St. Louis is the midwest in every way. The bootheel is the south in every way except in census designation, just like northern Kentucky is the midwest in every way except in census designation.
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Old 10-14-2016, 05:50 AM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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I'm originally from NC and I think most people from that part of the south consider anything west of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon line to be "not the South". The exceptions are Arkansas and Louisiana. Texas isn't the north or the south... it's just Texas.

I bet someone originally from Texas, Louisiana, or Arkansas would consider Texas to be the South.

Oklahoma has some southern elements, but I don't think North Carolinians would consider it to be part of the South.



I moved to Columbia, Missouri from North Carolina. My graduate advisor kept insisting that I was in the South. I kept reminding her that I'm from NC and that this is not at all the South. I don't think she had ever ventured out much. Even in the bootheel of Missouri, I still didn't feel like I was in the South.
Columbia being called southern is laughable. Maybe your advisor was referring to Mizzou moving into the SEC?

I'm surprised that you say that about the bootheel. I can't think of a single thing about it that feels different than the south other than what state it is in.
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Old 10-14-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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I would agree that Kansas is more southern than northern in terms of culture and linguistics. It's really along the same lines as Missouri in my regards, even being centrally located. There's really no shortage of the southern and country lifestyle in those states especially as you drift past the median north/south line bisecting the states.
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Old 10-14-2016, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Ohio, USA
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The most central point in the contiguous 48 is in Kansas not far from the Kansas-Nebraska border.
Geographic center of the contiguous United States - Wikipedia
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Old 10-14-2016, 09:24 AM
 
Location: West Tennessee
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I would agree that Kansas is more southern than northern in terms of culture and linguistics. It's really along the same lines as Missouri in my regards, even being centrally located. There's really no shortage of the southern and country lifestyle in those states especially as you drift past the median north/south line bisecting the states.
All I can say is that you must be from the upper midwest or the northeast. Most people from Missouri don't sound southern unless they are from the bottom 1/3 or 1/4 of the state. There is still a pretty significant difference in mannerisms and food between the rural south and rural midwest.
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Old 10-14-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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I would agree that Kansas is more southern than northern in terms of culture and linguistics.
You would be demonstrably wrong.
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