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Old 10-14-2016, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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I would agree that Kansas is more southern than northern in terms of culture and linguistics. It's really along the same lines as Missouri in my regards, even being centrally located. There's really no shortage of the southern and country lifestyle in those states especially as you drift past the median north/south line bisecting the states.
No it' not. Neither Kansas nor Missouri are southern in terms of culture and linguistics. You really don't know what you're talking about and need to move somewhere else. You're not qualified to speak on these states.
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Old 10-14-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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Kansas y'all. That does sound nice.
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Old 10-14-2016, 06:32 PM
 
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Kansas y'all. That does sound nice.
Haha yep! Hear a lot of that around these parts.
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Old 10-15-2016, 04:57 AM
 
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States which are questionably southern are to be judged by the state's pronounciation. If the state is pronounced with a vowel sound at the end or has an accent on the first syllable, then she is southern.
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Old 10-15-2016, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I would agree that Kansas is more southern than northern in terms of culture and linguistics. It's really along the same lines as Missouri in my regards, even being centrally located. There's really no shortage of the southern and country lifestyle in those states especially as you drift past the median north/south line bisecting the states.
Not even. Kansas may have some similarities with Oklahoma and Texas but thats it. Pretty much nothing in common with the South. And the similarities with OK and TX are more of a result of being in the plains and the history of cattle drives, so its more Southwestern influence than Southeastern.
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Old 10-15-2016, 09:16 PM
 
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Not even. Kansas may have some similarities with Oklahoma and Texas but thats it. Pretty much nothing in common with the South. And the similarities with OK and TX are more of a result of being in the plains and the history of cattle drives, so its more Southwestern influence than Southeastern.
Agreed - Kansas and Missouri do have southern influences. Thanks.
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Old 10-15-2016, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Agreed - Kansas and Missouri do have southern influences. Thanks.
They have Southern influences but they are more Northern than Southern.
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Old 10-15-2016, 10:51 PM
 
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It seems like alot of famous people in the past from Missouri were southern , Jesse james, Frank james, George Washington carver, Mark twain, . Maybe that was just certain counties. these threads in missouri subfroum talks alot about it , I think st louis may have had more southern influence musically during chuck berry, t bone walker, and Johnnie johnson and jazz and jump blues era in the 1950s and earlier but not as much now

Why is Missouri so southern?

Missouri...Southern or Midwestern?

one guy saids "some areas feel very northern and rust-belt-ish (St. Louis) and other more rural areas feel southern (esp. down near the boot heel) "
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Old 10-16-2016, 08:50 PM
 
Location: IN
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They have Southern influences but they are more Northern than Southern.
The speech patterns with the exception of St. Louis area are influenced by NCVS traits. The rest of the region is not northern influenced at all with lower midland speech patterns, but aligned more with the South.
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Old 10-17-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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The speech patterns with the exception of St. Louis area are influenced by NCVS traits. The rest of the region is not northern influenced at all with lower midland speech patterns, but aligned more with the South.
I disagree. The Lower Midwest is not aligned more with the South than the Upper Midwest. Otherwise we would be calling it the Upper South. Dialect maps confirm that most of Missouri, Kansas, Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio fall outside of the Southern dialect range.
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