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Old 09-08-2016, 07:44 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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If we limit the Northeast to the 13 colonies, why not the Southeast?
Regarding the Northeast being just the 13 colonies, look at the border between the Northeast and the Midwest (aka North Central), it comes down to just two states Ohio and Pennsylvania. That is because Ontario, Canada swoops down like a bird of prey and comes between New York and Michigan.

Contrast that with a map of the Southeast where multiple states have borders all over the place. For instance, southeast states by your definition like North Carolina and Georgia, go further west then parts of Kentucky and Tennessee. It would be strange to have West Virginia, Kentucky, Virginia, North Carolina, etc. all in different regions.

That is why a large natural border is superior when one is available. It just so happens that one is available for the Southeast - it is called the Mississippi River.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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Except not all of the states categorized as Northeast were part of the 13 colonies (Maine, Vermont). Same for the Southeast with Florida, at the very least.
Maine and Vermont were both part of the original 13 Colonies. They were both a part of Massachusetts. Florida is the only State on the eastern seaboard that was not part of the 13 colonies, and coincidentally is the only CLEARLY southeastern state that some people argue is not a part of the Southeast. The south east has always been historically tied to the 13 colonies.
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Old 09-08-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Maine and Vermont were both part of the original 13 Colonies. They were both a part of Massachusetts. Florida is the only State on the eastern seaboard that was not part of the 13 colonies, and coincidentally is the only CLEARLY southeastern state that some people argue is not a part of the Southeast. The south east has always been historically tied to the 13 colonies.
Your way focuses on man made state lines. My way focuses on actual boundaries.
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Old 09-08-2016, 01:49 PM
 
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Maine and Vermont were both part of the original 13 Colonies. They were both a part of Massachusetts.
Not as individual states though.

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Florida is the only State on the eastern seaboard that was not part of the 13 colonies, and coincidentally is the only CLEARLY southeastern state that some people argue is not a part of the Southeast.
Which is dumb. It's one thing to argue culture, but "Southeastern" is strictly a geographic term and Florida clearly fits.

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The south east has always been historically tied to the 13 colonies.
Yes but not exclusively. The region has mainly been portrayed as the Southern states east of the Mississippi River and south of the Ohio River/Mason-Dixon. I'm a SC native and that's how I was taught. This is my first time hearing of anyone restricting the region to just the south Atlantic states.
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Old 09-08-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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The Southeast is centered on the four Southern states that line the Atlantic seaboard: North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida.

Virginia is too far north to be considered Southeast; in my definition, it's Mid-Atlantic along with Delaware, Maryland and DC.

Kentucky and West Virginia are too far north and too landlocked/removed from the Atlantic seaboard to be considered part of the Southeast; those states comprise the region of Appalachia.

Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Louisiana and Arkansas are South-Central. Missouri and especially Kansas are not Southern states.

Texas and Oklahoma are the Western South, but definitely comprise more of a transitional region due to regional influences from the Southern, Southwestern, Great Plains/Midwestern and Mexican cultural zones.
No way.The Mid-Atlantic culture can barely be found in VA other than near D.C. Most of VA is very much "Southern" in culture although less so than other states.
Even the U.S. Geographic Society says its Southeastern.

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According to the maps, which states are included in the Southeast region of the United States? Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, and West Virginia.
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Old 09-08-2016, 02:45 PM
 
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The Southeast is ONLY the following:

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Alabama
Mississippi
Louisiana
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Old 09-08-2016, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Derby, CT
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Md, va, wv, tn, al, nc, sc, ga, fl
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Old 09-08-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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The Southeast is ONLY the following:

Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Alabama
Mississippi
Louisiana
Why only those states?
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Old 09-08-2016, 05:55 PM
 
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Why only those states?
I just dont understand how the capital state of the Confederacy which to this days have monuments all around the state to confederate heroes,can be in any other region but South or Southeast.Period.
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Old 09-08-2016, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Md, va, wv, tn, al, nc, sc, ga, fl
Right, Maryland. Maryland outside of Southern Maryland isn't Southern culturally or linguistically. Maryland is not part of the Southeast. It has more in common with Pennsylvania and Delaware and New Jersey than Virginia.
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