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What does that make Philly? N.Y.'s foot stool? After all we're talking about a city with a statue of Rocky at their art museum. How classy, how cultured, how sophisticated, How pathetic!
Both have bustling riverfronts, lots going on in the downtowns of both cities. Pittsburgh with its many parks and bridges. Cincinnati with its parks, sports venues, and museums. Cincinnati is also developing the Banks Project too. Cincinnati and Pittsburgh really are on the move.
St. Louis needs more work on their riverfront I think.
Some more riverfront would be nice.
Lumiere Casino is building some condos on the riverfront.
Why KC and not Omaha? Both are on the "Mighty Mo".
O.K. I would include Omaha, but I was being carefull not to include smaller towns else the list would be far too long. Is Omaha really that big? Also, I didn't include Nashville because I don't know what river that it's on. Is it a major river?
St.Louis is a midwestern city with some southern influences.
I used to get really upset when people from northern cities (Chicago, Boston) referred to St.Louis as southern (Partially, I guess, because the statement was so frequently delivered with a sneer). Over the years, it slowly dawned on me that both I and the speakers in question were insufferable bigots. Since then I've been trying to get over myself.
At least I come by it honestly. My dad used to complain about all the "hicks" moving to St.Louis from southern Missouri. I guess everything really is relative.
It is a little frustrating because calling St.Louis southern is just not accurate. It's primarily mid-western. It's demographic has more in common with Pittsburgh or Chicago than Memphis or Atlanta.
But calling it southern ain't "fightin' words" neither, dagnabbit.
When you've lived in the northeast and go back to St. Louis, the southern vibe is definitely part of the mix. Never been to Baltimore but the same IS true of D.C. There are lots of lovely southern cities and much of the southern vibe is actually kind of sexy.
Part of the reason Missouri was featured so heavily on the news coverage Super Tuesday was because it reflects the country as a whole in so many ways - urban, rural, southern, northern, western, eastern (I've always thought of St.Louis as the last eastern city and Kansas City as the first western one). It's a good thing. Relax.
A few of us have tried to inject a little detente into this thread, but it keeps drifting back to name calling and insults. I guess it's fun, but I'm done.
St.Louis is a midwestern city with some southern influences.
I used to get really upset when people from northern cities (Chicago, Boston) referred to St.Louis as southern (Partially, I guess, because the statement was so frequently delivered with a sneer). Over the years, it slowly dawned on me that both I and the speakers in question were insufferable bigots. Since then I've been trying to get over myself.
At least I come by it honestly. My dad used to complain about all the "hicks" moving to St.Louis from southern Missouri. I guess everything really is relative.
It is a little frustrating because calling St.Louis southern is just not accurate. It's primarily mid-western. It's demographic has more in common with Pittsburgh or Chicago than Memphis or Atlanta.
But calling it southern ain't "fightin' words" neither, dagnabbit.
When you've lived in the northeast and go back to St. Louis, the southern vibe is definitely part of the mix. Never been to Baltimore but the same IS true of D.C. There are lots of lovely southern cities and much of the southern vibe is actually kind of sexy.
Part of the reason Missouri was featured so heavily on the news coverage Super Tuesday was because it reflects the country as a whole in so many ways - urban, rural, southern, northern, western, eastern (I've always thought of St.Louis as the last eastern city and Kansas City as the first western one). It's a good thing. Relax.
A few of us have tried to inject a little detente into this thread, but it keeps drifting back to name calling and insults. I guess it's fun, but I'm done.
Regardless of whether St. Louis is southern, it's a great town rich with American culture, music, food and history. I'll certainly keep returning, although chiwarrior said I should be banned.
O.K. I would include Omaha, but I was being carefull not to include smaller towns else the list would be far too long. Is Omaha really that big? Also, I didn't include Nashville because I don't know what river that it's on. Is it a major river?
Omaha has about 400,000 people in the city, about 800,000 metro. I don't know anything about Nashville.
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That's why a statue of Bob Newhart is at Navy Pier. Not the Art Institute.
Mostly Mid, Slightly South
