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View Poll Results: What will be the 15th city to cross 5 million people?
Cleveland 1 2.13%
Denver 14 29.79%
Minneapolis 9 19.15%
Orlando 1 2.13%
Portland 4 8.51%
San Diego 4 8.51%
Tampa 14 29.79%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-07-2016, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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St. Louis should be on this list as well.
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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none of those "cities" will pass 5 million. Will their CSAs? Not without adding counties they won't. Tampa doesn't even have a CSA.
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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I'm actually quite surprised at how empty much of the path from Tampa to Bradenton is: Makes me think we're in for a longer wait than we hope

Still think it will be #15 though.
Most development is along the coast. Closer to I-75 in Manatee cty it becomes sparsely populated, though new housing is popping up.

This picture shows how sprawly it is..

http://i.imwx.com/web/news/2010/nove...10-469x574.jpg

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012...728b8ea29c.jpg
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Old 09-07-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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Will their CSAs? Not without adding counties they won't. Tampa doesn't even have a CSA.
I wouldn't place a lot of credibility on that if that's your intent. The geniuses in charge of the process are the same that separated Raleigh and Durham into two separate MSAs despite adjoining borders and masses of residents living in one and working in the other.
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Old 09-07-2016, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Alexandria, Commonwealth of Virginia
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I wouldn't place a lot of credibility on that if that's your intent. The geniuses in charge of the process are the same that separated Raleigh and Durham into two separate MSAs despite adjoining borders and masses of residents living in one and working in the other.
Well, those classifications are all mathematic. They get data from Census Bureau, and if cross-commuting is 25%, it becomes a part of the MSA. So there's no subjectivity involved at all.
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Old 09-08-2016, 04:21 AM
 
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Well, those classifications are all mathematic. They get data from Census Bureau, and if cross-commuting is 25%, it becomes a part of the MSA. So there's no subjectivity involved at all.
The genius's at the census bureau also split the city of Holland Michigan into 2 different statistical areas. Perhaps they should re-evaluate their methodology, since you can be in a seperate MSA without leaving a cities borders.
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Old 09-08-2016, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Northeast Suburbs of PITTSBURGH
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more connected? NYC and Philly are 47 miles at their closest city borders (not metros) and NJ has nearly 9 Million not in the citiies or burbs of PA and NY state, if you exclude the actual cities the area has nearly twice the 10 million people today. while they are growing are you serious on the connection and more developed?


the vast majority of the NJ population resides in the counties that lie directly between NYC and Philly


the SE and NW portions of NJ are very rural for the most part
I read that statement and I literally LOLed. Sure Tampa and Orlando are growing but they are hardly connected yet. Much less so than the big cities on the east coast.

It's about as connected as DC and Richmond.
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Old 09-08-2016, 06:50 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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The genius's at the census bureau also split the city of Holland Michigan into 2 different statistical areas. Perhaps they should re-evaluate their methodology, since you can be in a seperate MSA without leaving a cities borders.
Well, that's true in Raleigh/Durham as well. Raleigh extends into Durham County and Durham extends into Wake County. Likewise, Cary extends into Chatham County.

This is the problem with 100% objective rules. As I have learned in business, anytime you set an absolute or "don't cross this line" sort of rule, you get a really good reason why you have to cross that line.

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Old 09-08-2016, 10:36 AM
 
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I read that statement and I literally LOLed. Sure Tampa and Orlando are growing but they are hardly connected yet. Much less so than the big cities on the east coast.

It's about as connected as DC and Richmond.
They are pretty much connected, with Plant City, Lakeland, Winter Haven.. you can't see it from I-4 because after Lakeland and towards Orlando, most development is to the South. North of that you have the Green Swamp Wilderness Preserve(will never fill). It's clearly shown in the picture below..

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012...728b8ea29c.jpg
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Clemson, SC by way of Tyler,TX
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Austin/San Antonio will be the next Dallas/Fort Worth "megametro" area. Together the metro areas of Austin & SA are almost 4.5 million.
Looks that way, which really sucks. Would that sprawl be bigger than DFW? Alot of area to fill.
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