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Old 09-20-2016, 10:13 AM
 
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Overall, does Toronto more closely resemble Queens NY or Chicago?

Queens has a much more similar ethnic composition than Chicago does - significant Chinese and South Asian populations for example as well as many from the Caribbean (though Toronto lacks the AA presence and a much smaller Hispanic population). It was built up largely around the same time as Toronto and there are similarities in urban form - with the mix of SFHs and big apartments.

Toronto more closely resembles Chicago in terms of both being on Great Lakes and having more of a grid pattern, plus Chicago is an actual city rather than a section of one (and owntown area populations are similar).
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Old 09-20-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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The Old City of Toronto (pre-98 boundaries) resembles Queens/Brooklyn, while the post Annexation areas are more similar to Chicago
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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Overall, does Toronto more closely resemble Queens NY or Chicago?

Queens has a much more similar ethnic composition than Chicago does - significant Chinese and South Asian populations for example as well as many from the Caribbean (though Toronto lacks the AA presence and a much smaller Hispanic population). It was built up largely around the same time as Toronto and there are similarities in urban form - with the mix of SFHs and big apartments.

Toronto more closely resembles Chicago in terms of both being on Great Lakes and having more of a grid pattern, plus Chicago is an actual city rather than a section of one (and owntown area populations are similar).
Toronto has a small African American population, because it is not America. It's okay to say Black.


FWIW, Queens is grossly undereated.
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Old 09-20-2016, 04:23 PM
 
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Just saw a thread comparing Toronto to Brooklyn...

I think Toronto is more similar to Chicago. They are both on Great Lakes, have similar populations (Toronto just surpassed Chicago apparently), and similar sized downtowns and skylines.

Toronto also does not compare very well to NYC, even when looking at just one borough of NYC.
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Old 09-20-2016, 08:25 PM
 
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Queens for sure, Toronto and Chicago are only similar in the most superficial ways.
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:17 AM
 
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Toronto has a small African American population, because it is not America. It's okay to say Black.
I didn't say Toronto lacked a significant Black population and mentioned the sizeable Caribbean population. The majority of Black Torontonians are of course of Caribbean origin.* I meant specifically AAs - which yeah isn't surprising given that it is not the US.

Incidentally AAs are in the minority among NYC Blacks as well.

* Not all Caribbean immigrants are Black of course, and both Toronto and Queens have sizable Indo-Caribbean populations.
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:18 AM
 
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The Old City of Toronto (pre-98 boundaries) resembles Queens/Brooklyn, while the post Annexation areas are more similar to Chicago
How so?
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Old 09-21-2016, 06:36 AM
 
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I didn't say Toronto lacked a significant Black population and mentioned the sizeable Caribbean population. The majority of Black Torontonians are of course of Caribbean origin.* I meant specifically AAs - which yeah isn't surprising given that it is not the US.

Incidentally AAs are in the minority among NYC Blacks as well.

* Not all Caribbean immigrants are Black of course, and both Toronto and Queens have sizable Indo-Caribbean populations.
There are some AA's in Alexandra Park and some that come from the Maritimes and SW Ontario that are the descendants of Black Loyalists or those that came through the Underground Railroad. That segment of the Black population in Toronto may not be huge, but they are there. You may also have some that are a mix of those mentioned and from the Caribbean or Africa as well.
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Old 09-21-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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How so?
Population density in the Old City is the same as NYC (over 20k/sq mile), while it drops off to less than 10k/sq mi in places like Etobicoke and Scarborough which are now in the city limits
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Old 09-21-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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There are some AA's in Alexandra Park and some that come from the Maritimes and SW Ontario that are the descendants of Black Loyalists or those that came through the Underground Railroad. That segment of the Black population in Toronto may not be huge, but they are there. You may also have some that are a mix of those mentioned and from the Caribbean or Africa as well.
Toronto's Black community I would guess is roughly 65-70% Caribbean origin, 25-30% Sub-Saharan African origin and no more than 5% AA origin.

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